It’s not who passes for a woman… it’s not that some restrooms have men and women in. In those particular restrooms the women understand the deal. The problem is men in women’s restrooms as a norm. Because if that is legalised across the board, then it’s an exponential problem… because some men will take advantage of those rules, as some men have done in women’s prisons, to the point of rape and impregnating a woman.
If I’m walking behind a woman at night, I make a point of crossing the road because I know there is a thought in her head, a thought that I wouldn’t have, if the situation was reversed and she was walking behind me.
Namely, that she might be at risk of harm.
Some people answer that with ‘well, we can all be at risk of harm at some point’ to which I say, imagine hearing a noise on the stairs as you’re trying to sleep…. It’s dark…. You get up cautiously and go look but as your hand reaches the handle of the door,
the door bursts open and a figure pushes you to the ground.
You’re told to be quiet.
He has a knife. Someone else is rifling through the drawers.
They leave. It could have been worse.
Now, go to bed the next night.
Tell me you’re gonna sleep like a baby.
Tonight, it just might be worse.
And on. And on.
You’ve entered the world of what might happen. And you’re on your guard in a way you weren’t the night before it happened.
That is a woman’s world.
Always.
This shit is ok when it’s over there, way over there… not in our jurisdiction…. But we always see a little bit more when we live it a little.
In real gender dysphoria that has included medical transition, it is unlikely that women would be able to tell the difference. Unless we are going to do XX vs XY tests and give everyone an armband to identify their gender, it is just a physical appearance issue.
No, MEN can't tell the difference. Women can tell the difference every single time. Recognising the difference between male and female is an evolutionary survival trait women have relied on for all of time. Even if there's a double take, that double take happens for a reason: because on the deepest level, women know when they are in the presence of a male, regardless the modifications.
Nothing wrong with womansplaining when a woman is telling you what women actually can do that, apparently, you cannot do and do not understand that women can do. You have made it clear that you do not think women can clock males who larp as females, but evolution has made women very able to do that.
Womansplaining is the process of failing to think critically through a rind of strong emotions, hence womansplaining is irrational and should be rejected and avoided.
That is really not true! If by "medical transition" you mean a man who has had his male genitalia removed, there is no way that at a quick glance a woman (or other man, for that matter) could tell that he no longer has male genitalia (no bulge in his crotch).
None of us realize it when a clothed man has had his genitalia removed due to trauma or disease. If by "medical transition" you mean a man whose breasts have somewhat enlarged due to estrogen he has taken, or has had breast implants,that he is not simply a man with gynecomastia. Some women joke when looking at a man with gynecomastia that "he has bigger boobs than I do!" Because some men do have bigger breasts than women with small breasts.
There are many ways in which men (males!) are anatomically different than women (females!). Relative to their overall body size, men have bigger hands and bigger feet than women is one of the most conspicuous differences. They have Adam's apples which the men who try to pass as women often try to conceal by wearing chokers. Their voices are usually much deeper in pitch. These days hulking 6'4" built-like-a-brick-shithouse men think that they can pass as women if they just wear high heels, long hair wigs and makeup. The males with the best chance of passing are those with small builds who are naturally "effeminate", but they rarely larp as women and so do not try to enter female single-sex spaces.
Evolution has made women very good at instantly knowing whether an adult is male or female. If it is not instantly apparent, it becomes apparent quite quickly, watching how a person behaves: their gait, how men sit with legs apart, the sense of entitlement that they project. Men who larp as women do not realize the many "tells" they have that make women realize they are in fact male.
Have you actually seen very many men who are trying to pass as women? Or is this just an intellectual exercise for you?
...their gait, how they sit with legs apart which girls and women are taught not to do. Men who want to pass as women coach each other on Reddit and elsewhere on the many ways they have to alter their behavior, learned as boys, in order to move and carry themselves more like women. There are many "tells" that males who larp as women do not realize they give that show women they are men and not women.
Wow. How sexist. So a butch female that wears pants and sits with her legs open and has adopted behaviors that project as male would be discriminated on by you as being male.
LOL. Women are magical in that they can tell the real sex of a person by just watching them walk, etc.
Actually many men who don’t think with their dicks when looking at any slightly feminine form can tell the difference. This fully passing ‘thing’ is utter delusion . No male fully passes. How stupid to think otherwise !
Well, I'm a woman and I've known a few men who were very convincing as women. So convincing I didn't realize they were men until they told me. That was unusual even at the time, a long time ago, when what we then called transsexual men (vs. crossdressing men) for the most part wanted very much to pass as women, without a public fuss or any issues with restrooms. Since women's restrooms don't have urinals or open toilet stalls the only barrier to entry is one of appearance. Which is sort of ironic, as more masculine-appearing women routinely get challenged in public restrooms. As I well remember from my short-haired days.
Yeah well since there are numerous kinksters who are in there to record and to whack off, and since these people are also expressive of violence and threats of rape, and also just because public restrooms aren't their house and we don't have to share with strange men: they can stay the fuck out.
Your black and white position on this isn't going to win anything. I am sure you have been taking a dump at the airport bathroom with a biological XX person in the stall next to you, and you never noticed or could not tell. Likewise, I am sure females have been doing their business in a bathroom with other XY people and could not tell.
How are you suggesting we police that? What makes you think a real transitioned human like Bruce Jenner to Caitlyn Jenner is a threat to women in the bathroom. It seems overly paranoid, or just extreme.
You’re mighty casual with the risks to women, Frank.
What makes you think that Bruce Jenner isn’t? He’s admitted paraphilias involving *his own daughters*, they commonly cluster with others, often more dangerous.
Is it that he’s a hero to you? Deshawn Watson …
Is it that he seems nice? Ted Bundy …
It is *true* that some TIMs pass some of the time. And even that a few pass most of the time.
That doesn’t excuse your desire to extend a privilege to males in general (or at all).
Just as you ask how I’d “police” it, I ask you: are there going to be “passing police”?
How are women to know which TIMs have been certified as passing, or “safe”, and which haven’t?
The only answer is:
Hold all males accountable to the same rules. No XY in XX.
Enforce the laws we have, instead of excusing some subset of males that you (and if not you, who?) thinks women should be forced to accept in their private spaces.
And stop telling women what and who they should accept from males. Is that a clear enough response for you, Frank?
besides, passing in appearance doesn't make them "safe" it just means they didn't start with a super masculine frame. Not so common, given that boys are often identifiable in the cradle by their shape
It's clear what you believe, and I respect your right to believe it. I just disagree with that being a helpful or useful perspective. I see it as too black-vs-white given the realities of the human condition.
And you really don't answer the question about how your complete restriction on any XY entering a restroom for females gets policed.
Clearly the gestational process of gender development in the womb is fraught with diverse results that include gender dysphoria. In some cases there is genital ambiguity. But even without that, there can be other internal brain development that leads to sex identity dysphoria. And if those people transition, I don't see how restricting them from using a restroom matching their transitioned-to gender is a threat to anyone.
Frankly, I think what we need is construction code that makes all multi-person commercial restrooms unisex without urinals and with floor-to-ceiling lockable-from-the-inside stalls and no door into the restroom.
Frank, you’re every bit of a mansplaining tool as Steve.
Listen to some fucking women.
You don’t see how it’s a threat … because
you don’t know wtf you’re talking about.
And you would like to solve this with construction codes: have you read a damn thing about the research and realities of such spaces and how they put women and girls at greater risks than single sex facilities?
You’re quite the pair, and you caught me on an angry day.
I’m going to show a bunch of folks how callous and hubristic you are too.
“ And you would like to solve this with construction codes: have you read a damn thing about the research and realities of such spaces and how they put women and girls at greater risks than single sex facilities?”
I’d actually be very interested in seeing this research if you could stop screeching and insulting for long enough to share it.
I listen to my wife of 42 years, and she agrees with me. Keep biological men out of women's restrooms, but not those with diagnosed gender dysphoria that have been medically transitioned. She agrees that the only way to police it is by the appearance of the person.
Like I said, I respect your opinion, I just don't agree with it. Frankly, because I am, it is a bit weird that anyone would fear the sex intentions of a biological male that is medically transitioned to a female identity.
You don't seem to understand the construction code point, but it might be over your head.
why the f*ck should biological women have to avoid public bathrooms for women? what would you suggest they do? piss themselves? never go out? wear nappies? Just so that some mentally ill man can use the ladies room?? you disgust me
Let me try again: it is incorrect to treat DSD or any ambiguous genitalia patient as equivalent in any way to Gender Dysphoria. GD patients have zero physical abnormality or impairment. Whereas a baby with DSD may well have external genitalia that are completely opposite of their sex chromosomes (although this type is sooo extremely rare as to be insignificant). The most common type of DSD is 21-hydroxylase deficiency form of Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia. A boy with this is straight up just a boy. A girl with this IS masculinized to varying extents - and they still know they’re girls. GD is all in someone’s mind.
Honestly applied empathy and logic typically lead to the same conclusion as the stats I give elsewhere. Try this...
Imagine living as a woman: 1 in 4 have experienced rape, and 99% sexual aggression to a greater or lesser degree, all the while conscious of an extraordinary strength differential rendering us vulnerable to any one male who tries it on.
Men really seem to struggle to imagine this, so here's a useful analogy...:
You're given a large bag of Maltesers. The vast majority are lovely. But a few of them will make you ill enough to remember the experience for life (these represent abusive experiences stopping just short of attack; we've almost all had these, and many of us remember one when that realisation of our own utter vulnerability hit, and hit hard). Meanwhile, one Malteser in the bag - just one - is cyanide. That would be the violent attacker, whether he's downright evil or mundanely opportunistic. Do you take and eat a Malteser, Frank?
Mixed sex spaces remove women's freedom to mitigate - and get some relief from - the risk we face.
you hit the nail on the head. When all the malteasers look the same, how do you know which one will kill you? you don't- so best not to eat any of them
Those are fake stats from the feminist hive. No, 25% have NOT experienced rape. And 99% experiencing some male attracted to them... wow... that is profound... TRIGGER!
What men are struggling with these days is why the hell they would want a relationship with any female that thinks and acts like you do. Thankfully for you they make good vibrators, porn is free and you can be a vagitarian with all the rights of a married person... just without being able to realize your dream of loving a real dick.
What I find hilarious... generally the females with your views tend to be on the unattractive scale. I have often wondered if adopted radical feminism and misandry is just anger over lack of romantic attention.
You can appear soured and dip ever closer to ad hominem attacks, or you can acknowledge that it is reasonable for women to have places of safety where they can let down their guard whilst performing vulnerable tasks.
Your arguments, when weighed against the need for safety, are comparative luxuries as per Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Please be fair.
NB. These proportions are reflected in corresponding statistics in various other nations.
You could also look into: research into levels of post-transition male violence and the variety of reasons for transitioning including AGP (on the latter, there are some very good firsthand accounts by medically transitioned transwomen eg. Debbie Hayton).
"And if those people transition, I don't see how restricting them from using a restroom matching their transitioned-to gender is a threat to anyone." I can see how, but only if the data shows it. Numerous studies have analyzed the prevalence of violent crime of transwomen and also of the overall male population. The data on crime and violent crime by transwomen has been tracked since at least 1973, studied within many countries, and then restudied. Data exists! Assuming you know the data exists and that you have examined it, are you suggesting that transwomen exhibit the same threat to women as other women do? Because that would have to be your conclusion from the data in order to make your statement. Have you examined the crime and violence data in regards to transwomen? It is possible to turn "I don't see" into an informed opinion, but 'seeing' might complicate your solidarity with trans-freedom.
Just how it was policed for the last 80 or so years since women were allowed to walk further than the shop because they were finally granted a public toilet for themselves only …
Men who are pretending to be women rarely pass as such. Women who pretend to be men, and who have taken enough testosterone, can generally pass more easily. The entire reason why the gender ideologues began experimenting on children is that they believe the males would "get better outcomes" if they don't go through normal male puberty. "Better outcomes" translates as "They would pass better as women." This isn't just my opinion, it is a fact that gender medical professionals are very open about.
Another reality that the gender ideologues are not open about is that men act like men after they have transitioned, they don't act like women. A lot of them are narcissistic and they don't change their entitled, self-centered, pushy personalities after they transition, no matter what body parts they hack off or how much estrogen they use.
You may think that trans identified females pass but as a gay man I can always tell the small manly robotic voiced women .. they have crap facial hair also.. no fooling me
There is no link between how 'true' someone's gender dysphoria is and how well they pass. And no woman knows what's going on in the head of the gender dysphoric man when he walks into the women's toilets. And the vast majority of 'trans women' today still have their male genitals intact.
GD or not, males stay out.
Women and girls aren’t emotional support animals for deluded males.
It’s not who passes for a woman… it’s not that some restrooms have men and women in. In those particular restrooms the women understand the deal. The problem is men in women’s restrooms as a norm. Because if that is legalised across the board, then it’s an exponential problem… because some men will take advantage of those rules, as some men have done in women’s prisons, to the point of rape and impregnating a woman.
If I’m walking behind a woman at night, I make a point of crossing the road because I know there is a thought in her head, a thought that I wouldn’t have, if the situation was reversed and she was walking behind me.
Namely, that she might be at risk of harm.
Some people answer that with ‘well, we can all be at risk of harm at some point’ to which I say, imagine hearing a noise on the stairs as you’re trying to sleep…. It’s dark…. You get up cautiously and go look but as your hand reaches the handle of the door,
the door bursts open and a figure pushes you to the ground.
You’re told to be quiet.
He has a knife. Someone else is rifling through the drawers.
They leave. It could have been worse.
Now, go to bed the next night.
Tell me you’re gonna sleep like a baby.
Tonight, it just might be worse.
And on. And on.
You’ve entered the world of what might happen. And you’re on your guard in a way you weren’t the night before it happened.
That is a woman’s world.
Always.
This shit is ok when it’s over there, way over there… not in our jurisdiction…. But we always see a little bit more when we live it a little.
And for men not to get that,
where women are concerned,
Is kinda strange to me, and a touch sad.
Spot on, Mike, you've got it.
It’s okay Mike, Frank’s beleaguered wife agrees with him, supposedly.
Right, Frank?
well said Mike, thankyou
In real gender dysphoria that has included medical transition, it is unlikely that women would be able to tell the difference. Unless we are going to do XX vs XY tests and give everyone an armband to identify their gender, it is just a physical appearance issue.
No, MEN can't tell the difference. Women can tell the difference every single time. Recognising the difference between male and female is an evolutionary survival trait women have relied on for all of time. Even if there's a double take, that double take happens for a reason: because on the deepest level, women know when they are in the presence of a male, regardless the modifications.
LOL. Okay Karen. Thanks for womansplaining that to me.
You're welcome. Learn something.
He won't! He is a man who thinks he knows better than women do what women can see with our own eyes! That is mansplaining, of course.
Oh I love seeing a misandrist woman rush to womansplain to a man how he should think and act.
Bravo!
*golfclap*
Nothing wrong with womansplaining when a woman is telling you what women actually can do that, apparently, you cannot do and do not understand that women can do. You have made it clear that you do not think women can clock males who larp as females, but evolution has made women very able to do that.
Womansplaining is the process of failing to think critically through a rind of strong emotions, hence womansplaining is irrational and should be rejected and avoided.
That is really not true! If by "medical transition" you mean a man who has had his male genitalia removed, there is no way that at a quick glance a woman (or other man, for that matter) could tell that he no longer has male genitalia (no bulge in his crotch).
None of us realize it when a clothed man has had his genitalia removed due to trauma or disease. If by "medical transition" you mean a man whose breasts have somewhat enlarged due to estrogen he has taken, or has had breast implants,that he is not simply a man with gynecomastia. Some women joke when looking at a man with gynecomastia that "he has bigger boobs than I do!" Because some men do have bigger breasts than women with small breasts.
There are many ways in which men (males!) are anatomically different than women (females!). Relative to their overall body size, men have bigger hands and bigger feet than women is one of the most conspicuous differences. They have Adam's apples which the men who try to pass as women often try to conceal by wearing chokers. Their voices are usually much deeper in pitch. These days hulking 6'4" built-like-a-brick-shithouse men think that they can pass as women if they just wear high heels, long hair wigs and makeup. The males with the best chance of passing are those with small builds who are naturally "effeminate", but they rarely larp as women and so do not try to enter female single-sex spaces.
Evolution has made women very good at instantly knowing whether an adult is male or female. If it is not instantly apparent, it becomes apparent quite quickly, watching how a person behaves: their gait, how men sit with legs apart, the sense of entitlement that they project. Men who larp as women do not realize the many "tells" they have that make women realize they are in fact male.
Have you actually seen very many men who are trying to pass as women? Or is this just an intellectual exercise for you?
...their gait, how they sit with legs apart which girls and women are taught not to do. Men who want to pass as women coach each other on Reddit and elsewhere on the many ways they have to alter their behavior, learned as boys, in order to move and carry themselves more like women. There are many "tells" that males who larp as women do not realize they give that show women they are men and not women.
Wow. How sexist. So a butch female that wears pants and sits with her legs open and has adopted behaviors that project as male would be discriminated on by you as being male.
LOL. Women are magical in that they can tell the real sex of a person by just watching them walk, etc.
Wow, Frank, we're all sorry you have trouble distinguishing between the two sexes. You should get that checked. Even mice know the difference between men and women. https://www.kentscientific.com/blog/biological-sex-of-researchers-and-mice-can-skew-research-results/#:~:text=Mice%20can%20tell%20the%20sex,and%20more%20relaxed%20around%20women.
You're confused. You tried to assert what women think. You were corrected by a woman. Time to be quiet and learn.
Actually many men who don’t think with their dicks when looking at any slightly feminine form can tell the difference. This fully passing ‘thing’ is utter delusion . No male fully passes. How stupid to think otherwise !
Name calling is stupid.
Well, I'm a woman and I've known a few men who were very convincing as women. So convincing I didn't realize they were men until they told me. That was unusual even at the time, a long time ago, when what we then called transsexual men (vs. crossdressing men) for the most part wanted very much to pass as women, without a public fuss or any issues with restrooms. Since women's restrooms don't have urinals or open toilet stalls the only barrier to entry is one of appearance. Which is sort of ironic, as more masculine-appearing women routinely get challenged in public restrooms. As I well remember from my short-haired days.
Yeah well since there are numerous kinksters who are in there to record and to whack off, and since these people are also expressive of violence and threats of rape, and also just because public restrooms aren't their house and we don't have to share with strange men: they can stay the fuck out.
🙌🏼
It’s not just a physical appearance issue, Frank: “transitioned” males still retain much of their physical advantage, and male pattern violence.
Are armbands needed? Don’t be ridiculous.
Do you know who *always* knows? The male in question.
Why are *you* so eager to let them off the hook, to give them cover, to put women and girls are greater risk?
Your black and white position on this isn't going to win anything. I am sure you have been taking a dump at the airport bathroom with a biological XX person in the stall next to you, and you never noticed or could not tell. Likewise, I am sure females have been doing their business in a bathroom with other XY people and could not tell.
How are you suggesting we police that? What makes you think a real transitioned human like Bruce Jenner to Caitlyn Jenner is a threat to women in the bathroom. It seems overly paranoid, or just extreme.
You’re mighty casual with the risks to women, Frank.
What makes you think that Bruce Jenner isn’t? He’s admitted paraphilias involving *his own daughters*, they commonly cluster with others, often more dangerous.
Is it that he’s a hero to you? Deshawn Watson …
Is it that he seems nice? Ted Bundy …
It is *true* that some TIMs pass some of the time. And even that a few pass most of the time.
That doesn’t excuse your desire to extend a privilege to males in general (or at all).
Just as you ask how I’d “police” it, I ask you: are there going to be “passing police”?
How are women to know which TIMs have been certified as passing, or “safe”, and which haven’t?
The only answer is:
Hold all males accountable to the same rules. No XY in XX.
Enforce the laws we have, instead of excusing some subset of males that you (and if not you, who?) thinks women should be forced to accept in their private spaces.
And stop telling women what and who they should accept from males. Is that a clear enough response for you, Frank?
besides, passing in appearance doesn't make them "safe" it just means they didn't start with a super masculine frame. Not so common, given that boys are often identifiable in the cradle by their shape
It's clear what you believe, and I respect your right to believe it. I just disagree with that being a helpful or useful perspective. I see it as too black-vs-white given the realities of the human condition.
And you really don't answer the question about how your complete restriction on any XY entering a restroom for females gets policed.
Clearly the gestational process of gender development in the womb is fraught with diverse results that include gender dysphoria. In some cases there is genital ambiguity. But even without that, there can be other internal brain development that leads to sex identity dysphoria. And if those people transition, I don't see how restricting them from using a restroom matching their transitioned-to gender is a threat to anyone.
Frankly, I think what we need is construction code that makes all multi-person commercial restrooms unisex without urinals and with floor-to-ceiling lockable-from-the-inside stalls and no door into the restroom.
Frank, you’re every bit of a mansplaining tool as Steve.
Listen to some fucking women.
You don’t see how it’s a threat … because
you don’t know wtf you’re talking about.
And you would like to solve this with construction codes: have you read a damn thing about the research and realities of such spaces and how they put women and girls at greater risks than single sex facilities?
You’re quite the pair, and you caught me on an angry day.
I’m going to show a bunch of folks how callous and hubristic you are too.
Enjoy, Frank.
“ And you would like to solve this with construction codes: have you read a damn thing about the research and realities of such spaces and how they put women and girls at greater risks than single sex facilities?”
I’d actually be very interested in seeing this research if you could stop screeching and insulting for long enough to share it.
I listen to my wife of 42 years, and she agrees with me. Keep biological men out of women's restrooms, but not those with diagnosed gender dysphoria that have been medically transitioned. She agrees that the only way to police it is by the appearance of the person.
Like I said, I respect your opinion, I just don't agree with it. Frankly, because I am, it is a bit weird that anyone would fear the sex intentions of a biological male that is medically transitioned to a female identity.
You don't seem to understand the construction code point, but it might be over your head.
But your wife doesn't have the right to give consent for other women.
Wish I could upvote this more.
Well just stay the hell out of public bathrooms. Problem solved.
why the f*ck should biological women have to avoid public bathrooms for women? what would you suggest they do? piss themselves? never go out? wear nappies? Just so that some mentally ill man can use the ladies room?? you disgust me
I think Franky boys a bit of an autogynephile fancier!!
Let me try again: it is incorrect to treat DSD or any ambiguous genitalia patient as equivalent in any way to Gender Dysphoria. GD patients have zero physical abnormality or impairment. Whereas a baby with DSD may well have external genitalia that are completely opposite of their sex chromosomes (although this type is sooo extremely rare as to be insignificant). The most common type of DSD is 21-hydroxylase deficiency form of Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia. A boy with this is straight up just a boy. A girl with this IS masculinized to varying extents - and they still know they’re girls. GD is all in someone’s mind.
Honestly applied empathy and logic typically lead to the same conclusion as the stats I give elsewhere. Try this...
Imagine living as a woman: 1 in 4 have experienced rape, and 99% sexual aggression to a greater or lesser degree, all the while conscious of an extraordinary strength differential rendering us vulnerable to any one male who tries it on.
Men really seem to struggle to imagine this, so here's a useful analogy...:
You're given a large bag of Maltesers. The vast majority are lovely. But a few of them will make you ill enough to remember the experience for life (these represent abusive experiences stopping just short of attack; we've almost all had these, and many of us remember one when that realisation of our own utter vulnerability hit, and hit hard). Meanwhile, one Malteser in the bag - just one - is cyanide. That would be the violent attacker, whether he's downright evil or mundanely opportunistic. Do you take and eat a Malteser, Frank?
Mixed sex spaces remove women's freedom to mitigate - and get some relief from - the risk we face.
you hit the nail on the head. When all the malteasers look the same, how do you know which one will kill you? you don't- so best not to eat any of them
Those are fake stats from the feminist hive. No, 25% have NOT experienced rape. And 99% experiencing some male attracted to them... wow... that is profound... TRIGGER!
What men are struggling with these days is why the hell they would want a relationship with any female that thinks and acts like you do. Thankfully for you they make good vibrators, porn is free and you can be a vagitarian with all the rights of a married person... just without being able to realize your dream of loving a real dick.
What I find hilarious... generally the females with your views tend to be on the unattractive scale. I have often wondered if adopted radical feminism and misandry is just anger over lack of romantic attention.
You can appear soured and dip ever closer to ad hominem attacks, or you can acknowledge that it is reasonable for women to have places of safety where they can let down their guard whilst performing vulnerable tasks.
Your arguments, when weighed against the need for safety, are comparative luxuries as per Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Please be fair.
If you ever see this, Frank, perhaps in future try prioritising facts over a comically patronising tone. It would come across better.
Please also share the below with your wife, so she can make informed judgements, too...:
Comparisons of official MOJ statistics from March / April 2019 (most recent official count of transgender prisoners):
76 sex offenders out of 129 transwomen = 58.9%
125 sex offenders out of 3812 women in prison = 3.3%
13234 sex offenders out of 78781 men in prison =
16.8%
https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/18973/pdf/
NB. These proportions are reflected in corresponding statistics in various other nations.
You could also look into: research into levels of post-transition male violence and the variety of reasons for transitioning including AGP (on the latter, there are some very good firsthand accounts by medically transitioned transwomen eg. Debbie Hayton).
https://time.com/3393442/cdc-rape-numbers/
"And if those people transition, I don't see how restricting them from using a restroom matching their transitioned-to gender is a threat to anyone." I can see how, but only if the data shows it. Numerous studies have analyzed the prevalence of violent crime of transwomen and also of the overall male population. The data on crime and violent crime by transwomen has been tracked since at least 1973, studied within many countries, and then restudied. Data exists! Assuming you know the data exists and that you have examined it, are you suggesting that transwomen exhibit the same threat to women as other women do? Because that would have to be your conclusion from the data in order to make your statement. Have you examined the crime and violence data in regards to transwomen? It is possible to turn "I don't see" into an informed opinion, but 'seeing' might complicate your solidarity with trans-freedom.
Just how it was policed for the last 80 or so years since women were allowed to walk further than the shop because they were finally granted a public toilet for themselves only …
I agree, all bathrooms should be single person use only
‘Biological XY person’ ? You mean MALE
Men who are pretending to be women rarely pass as such. Women who pretend to be men, and who have taken enough testosterone, can generally pass more easily. The entire reason why the gender ideologues began experimenting on children is that they believe the males would "get better outcomes" if they don't go through normal male puberty. "Better outcomes" translates as "They would pass better as women." This isn't just my opinion, it is a fact that gender medical professionals are very open about.
Another reality that the gender ideologues are not open about is that men act like men after they have transitioned, they don't act like women. A lot of them are narcissistic and they don't change their entitled, self-centered, pushy personalities after they transition, no matter what body parts they hack off or how much estrogen they use.
You may think that trans identified females pass but as a gay man I can always tell the small manly robotic voiced women .. they have crap facial hair also.. no fooling me
There is no link between how 'true' someone's gender dysphoria is and how well they pass. And no woman knows what's going on in the head of the gender dysphoric man when he walks into the women's toilets. And the vast majority of 'trans women' today still have their male genitals intact.
Unless you are going to station a penis vs vagina inspection, you would likely prevent John Kerry's daughter from entering. https://unfoundation.org/blog/post/why-we-care-an-interview-with-vanessa-kerry-on-reproductive-health/
That's just not true
Nice one