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J W's avatar

The problem is the never-ending entitlement of men to define women's boundaries for them.

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Laggy's avatar

You’re a moron

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Sarah Caulfield's avatar

YES!

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Frank Lee's avatar

Well the situation is the same reversed. Any XX person that transitions medically to a male identity would be able to use the men's restroom.

I think the more recent never-ending general demonstrated entitlement is that women have no boundaries, refuse to have anyone else set any boundaries for them, but then also behave as Karens that can tell everyone else how they must live their lives.

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Digital Canary 💪💪🇨🇦🇺🇦🗽's avatar

The situation is not the same reversed you colossal buffoon.

Women, even on post pubertal T, do not gain the same physical advantage as males who go through puberty do.

JFC Frank.

“My wife agrees with me”

You’re probably such a nightmare when she doesn’t that she just strokes your ego.

Listen to JW

Read Kathleen Stock, Emma Hilton, and myriad others who’ve put in the work that you so breezily assume you’ve worked out all by your cognitively unimpressive lonesome.

Stop smelling your farts, Frank, you’re delusional from methane poisoning.

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Steve QJ's avatar

Alright man, that’s enough. Disagreement is welcome here, abuse is not.

Frank and others have tried several times to be reasonable and respectful. If you can’t express yourself more productively than screeching at people I’m going to ban you.

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OBD's avatar

Calling women Karens is not respectful

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Steve QJ's avatar

No, it's not. And if one person had been writing dozens of unhinged comments calling everybody who disagreed with them, however slightly, a Karen, I'd have said the same thing to them.

But I've already overlooked dozens of "Digital Canary's" far more pointed insults. There comes a point where people simply aren't contributing anything but toxicity.

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Holly Hart's avatar

I am quite sure that Frank and other men who comment as he does are "man enough" to take humorous comments like "Stop smelling your farts...you're delusional from methane poisoning."

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Steve QJ's avatar

"I am quite sure that Frank..."

Me too. In fact Frank messaged me to let me know that he's fine with the occasional idiot with low emotional control.

But as these "humorous comments" contribute nothing to the conversation, are obviously not going to change anybody's mind, and create a degree of toxicity that I think we could all do without (and which some people might reasonably find unpleasant), I'd rather people who can't communicate like grown-ups throw their little tantrums in somebody else's community.

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Digital Canary 💪💪🇨🇦🇺🇦🗽's avatar

Have at it man.

Your hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness is already being picked up by bigger accounts, and I’ve not even started to go to work on you both.

Feel free to walk back your respective claims of superior understanding anytime, and listen to what’s been said.

Or dig deeper.

The choice is yours: I’d prefer you learn something the easy way, but I’m fully prepared to get it through to you the hard way.

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Steve QJ's avatar

Neither I, nor anybody else, can learn from someone who is “not here to persuade, but to “shame.”

All you’ve been doing here is indulging your ego. It’s painfully obvious that nothing you’re saying, and certainly not the way you’re saying it, will persuade or edify anybody. Nor is it meant to. It’s just you flattering yourself for an imagined audience.

Again, disagreement is welcome here, and if you feel you have something valuable to share (like that research on single use spaces), I’m sure many people would be glad to hear it.

But if all you want to do is grandstand and abuse people and make silly little threats about “the hard way” (believe me when I say you don’t even begin to intimidate me), then yes, you’ll have to do it elsewhere.

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Digital Canary 💪💪🇨🇦🇺🇦🗽's avatar

Still pontificating, Steve. You’re a laugh riot.

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Steve QJ's avatar

You know, you’re not the first person to say I’m funny. Glad you’re enjoying yourself.

I’m asking you for the third time for that research, I’d really like to learn. Otherwise, yeah, please share my work with larger accounts. Make sure thousands of new people see my work. What a terrifying threat that is for a content creator…😅

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Digital Canary 💪💪🇨🇦🇺🇦🗽's avatar

Been reading your comments lately, Steve?

Seems like folks here are enthralled by your brilliance.

FWIW i did come here to persuade.

And after you tripled down (unpersuadable🤷‍♂️) I switched to shaming.

So about your pontificating?

Any thoughts from your brilliant mind?

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Digital Canary 💪💪🇨🇦🇺🇦🗽's avatar

While I’m waiting for sagepub to stop being a pita, are you ever going to actually address your dismissal of your own pontification-related comment, Steve?

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Holly Hart's avatar

You and Steve need to take it outside. I agree with you substantively, Digital Canary. Read what I have written. But there is not point in you and Steve going at it like ping pong.

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Digital Canary 💪💪🇨🇦🇺🇦🗽's avatar

I understand, Holly, and I will be.

However, Steve keeps providing excellent fodder to support my thesis that he’s a self-important and (at least subconsciously) misogynistic blowhard.

I promise I won’t further antagonize him here unless he makes yet another feeble attempt to deflect from his obvious shortcomings. In such an event, I can’t promise I won’t fall to the temptation of goading him into further displays of his “brilliance”.

But again, I get where you’re coming from. And appreciate the supportive words.

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LSWCHP's avatar

You sound like a nice person.

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J W's avatar

It's men's history-long 'redefining' of female boundaries with violence and force that is the point here. Go elsewhere for your bizarre little opportunistic wobble about 'Karens.' Jesus.

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