The left lost its moral compass a long time ago, just like the right. Its mania for 'inclusivity' and lightening up on sexual mores (which the world DID and still does need) has led it to becoming *too* inclusive, 'too' being defined as 'to the detriment of others'. Like the much-discussed-here-already problem of the androcentric trans m…
The left lost its moral compass a long time ago, just like the right. Its mania for 'inclusivity' and lightening up on sexual mores (which the world DID and still does need) has led it to becoming *too* inclusive, 'too' being defined as 'to the detriment of others'.
Like the much-discussed-here-already problem of the androcentric trans movement and its misogynist treatment of adult human females (I had one yesterday on Twitter try to argue how TW are 'adult human females' and I set him straight on that tout de suite.)
The other problem is the increasing embrace of *open* sexual fetishism. While whatever goes between consenting adults, it doesn't mean the rest of us should be exposed to it or pressured or coerced to accept it, esp as it relates to children and the increasingly pedophilic tone I'm getting from the 'drag show for kids' crap.
Did anyone else see Twitter trending yesterday with Jon Stewart slapping down an anti-drag conservative by pointing out to him, quite rightly, that guns were a bigger threat to children? Good point, but it sure did sound like a defense of drag shows for kids. Stewart strikes me as having lost his own moral compass, his ability to think logically on some occasions, and now he can't even tell that however this guy feels about gun rights, he's RIGHT to come down on drag queen story or whatever the fuck they call it?
If the left can't see what's going on with these people, they're no more morally correct than the right. I don't know if this guy is part of the trans movement, even if just a supporter, or not but I'd bet me he is. Because I think pedophiles are beginning to latch onto the overly-inclusive movement for their own agenda.
I wonder how long it will be before this guy & others like him start mouthing NAMBLA talking points.
“ The other problem is the increasing embrace of *open* sexual fetishism.”
Also, yes, this is very true. Sex positivity is all well and good, but a basic standard of public decency doesn’t infringe on anybody except perverts. I don’t know why some people have become so concerned with pandering to them.
You can thank the gay culture for that; if you weren't into letting strangers know what you thought about while masturbating then you were suffering from "internalized homophobia."
It's one of those things like the unrecognized sickness of selfies. Erasing boundaries between private nd public.
“ The left lost its moral compass a long time ago, just like the right. Its mania for 'inclusivity' and lightening up on sexual mores (which the world DID and still does need) has led it to becoming *too* inclusive, 'too' being defined as 'to the detriment of others'.”
Couldn’t agree more. It’s so heartbreaking to see what’s become if what I’ve always felt was my political team. Hijacked by a bunch of lunatics who are allowed to run wild because the reasonable majority are afraid of being called made-up names on Twitter.
Just cowardice all the way down.
And yeah, so weird what’s happened to Jon Stewart. There are so many flashes of his brilliance in his show, but somehow that makes the parts when he’s intellectually dishonest even more painful.
In his defence though, he was making a point about constitutional rights. Less a defence of drag for kids than saying, “hey, if the government has a responsibility to regulate a drag queen’s First Amendment right to perform in front of children, why don’t they have a responsibility to regulate a civilian’s Second Amendment right to buy a gun that can kill children?”
Cause voyeurism and pedophilia have a few more legal constraints (like precisely what you were discussing with Rogue) than irresponsible firing of weapons that catch kids in the crossfire? I believe what something can do is different from what someone is doing in front of children.
“ I believe what something can do is different from what someone is doing in front of children.”
Agreed. And I think both issues are worthy of attention. But as Jon was pointing out, guns are the leading cause of death for kids in America. So when Dahm is trying to repeal laws on gun control and trying to pass laws in drag shows, all while claiming his concern is safety, it highlights a certain hypocrisy, no?
I don’t know what Stewart’s position on Drag Queen story hour is. Sadly, I suspect he doesn’t see the issue (or wouldn’t admit to seeing it). But I don’t think this interview could be considered a defence of it.
Agreed, hypocritical for sure. I briefly dug into the ‘gun deaths of children’ story: age 1-19, excludes infants. I would be extremely interested in a breakout for age 16-18 (eg both hovering around that ‘age of consent’ thing and incorporating teen gangs.
We all shudder at the headline envisioning 5-year-olds shot in their car seat. I’m just wary of media manipulation.
I detest transvestites because every one of them I ever trusted stole from me, even pocketing 50¢ rolls of pennies while I was in the bathroom.
But telling stories to kids, sorry, I can't summon any outrage at that. The kids probably see them as clowns. I doubt very many boy children come out of story hour thinking "I want to dress as a woman."
Drags are the most ineffectual people on the planet.
I saw the Jon Stewart video. He handed that bearded gun nut his own ass. I just loved how he wouldn't let him change the subject, I wish to god there was more of that,.
I remember feeling outrage as a 7 year old girl at seeing drag queens, on tv. "So women are a joke for men to make fun of?" was my first thought. It didn't even occur to me how offensive it was that it was often a sexualised caricature of women being presented for entertainment. So while I agree very few boys watch and think they want to now dress as a pronified version of a woman for fun, they are definitely getting the message (as are little girls) that women are a joke and a sexualised joke at that. That's not ineffectual, I promise.
Drags are as cringeworthy as the blackface minstrels in that regard. It could make you think that women are being made fun of it the same way black people were being made a joke.
The minstrels were doing it while appropriating the music of people from Africa. I've never been to a drag show. Is there vaudevillianesque mimicry of women entertainers?
The left lost its moral compass a long time ago, just like the right. Its mania for 'inclusivity' and lightening up on sexual mores (which the world DID and still does need) has led it to becoming *too* inclusive, 'too' being defined as 'to the detriment of others'.
Like the much-discussed-here-already problem of the androcentric trans movement and its misogynist treatment of adult human females (I had one yesterday on Twitter try to argue how TW are 'adult human females' and I set him straight on that tout de suite.)
The other problem is the increasing embrace of *open* sexual fetishism. While whatever goes between consenting adults, it doesn't mean the rest of us should be exposed to it or pressured or coerced to accept it, esp as it relates to children and the increasingly pedophilic tone I'm getting from the 'drag show for kids' crap.
Did anyone else see Twitter trending yesterday with Jon Stewart slapping down an anti-drag conservative by pointing out to him, quite rightly, that guns were a bigger threat to children? Good point, but it sure did sound like a defense of drag shows for kids. Stewart strikes me as having lost his own moral compass, his ability to think logically on some occasions, and now he can't even tell that however this guy feels about gun rights, he's RIGHT to come down on drag queen story or whatever the fuck they call it?
If the left can't see what's going on with these people, they're no more morally correct than the right. I don't know if this guy is part of the trans movement, even if just a supporter, or not but I'd bet me he is. Because I think pedophiles are beginning to latch onto the overly-inclusive movement for their own agenda.
I wonder how long it will be before this guy & others like him start mouthing NAMBLA talking points.
“ The other problem is the increasing embrace of *open* sexual fetishism.”
Also, yes, this is very true. Sex positivity is all well and good, but a basic standard of public decency doesn’t infringe on anybody except perverts. I don’t know why some people have become so concerned with pandering to them.
You can thank the gay culture for that; if you weren't into letting strangers know what you thought about while masturbating then you were suffering from "internalized homophobia."
It's one of those things like the unrecognized sickness of selfies. Erasing boundaries between private nd public.
“ The left lost its moral compass a long time ago, just like the right. Its mania for 'inclusivity' and lightening up on sexual mores (which the world DID and still does need) has led it to becoming *too* inclusive, 'too' being defined as 'to the detriment of others'.”
Couldn’t agree more. It’s so heartbreaking to see what’s become if what I’ve always felt was my political team. Hijacked by a bunch of lunatics who are allowed to run wild because the reasonable majority are afraid of being called made-up names on Twitter.
Just cowardice all the way down.
And yeah, so weird what’s happened to Jon Stewart. There are so many flashes of his brilliance in his show, but somehow that makes the parts when he’s intellectually dishonest even more painful.
In his defence though, he was making a point about constitutional rights. Less a defence of drag for kids than saying, “hey, if the government has a responsibility to regulate a drag queen’s First Amendment right to perform in front of children, why don’t they have a responsibility to regulate a civilian’s Second Amendment right to buy a gun that can kill children?”
Maybe there wasn't enough context. I watched it twice, and didn't get that. I think he could have made his point better.
Cause voyeurism and pedophilia have a few more legal constraints (like precisely what you were discussing with Rogue) than irresponsible firing of weapons that catch kids in the crossfire? I believe what something can do is different from what someone is doing in front of children.
“ I believe what something can do is different from what someone is doing in front of children.”
Agreed. And I think both issues are worthy of attention. But as Jon was pointing out, guns are the leading cause of death for kids in America. So when Dahm is trying to repeal laws on gun control and trying to pass laws in drag shows, all while claiming his concern is safety, it highlights a certain hypocrisy, no?
I don’t know what Stewart’s position on Drag Queen story hour is. Sadly, I suspect he doesn’t see the issue (or wouldn’t admit to seeing it). But I don’t think this interview could be considered a defence of it.
Agreed, hypocritical for sure. I briefly dug into the ‘gun deaths of children’ story: age 1-19, excludes infants. I would be extremely interested in a breakout for age 16-18 (eg both hovering around that ‘age of consent’ thing and incorporating teen gangs.
We all shudder at the headline envisioning 5-year-olds shot in their car seat. I’m just wary of media manipulation.
I detest transvestites because every one of them I ever trusted stole from me, even pocketing 50¢ rolls of pennies while I was in the bathroom.
But telling stories to kids, sorry, I can't summon any outrage at that. The kids probably see them as clowns. I doubt very many boy children come out of story hour thinking "I want to dress as a woman."
Drags are the most ineffectual people on the planet.
I saw the Jon Stewart video. He handed that bearded gun nut his own ass. I just loved how he wouldn't let him change the subject, I wish to god there was more of that,.
I remember feeling outrage as a 7 year old girl at seeing drag queens, on tv. "So women are a joke for men to make fun of?" was my first thought. It didn't even occur to me how offensive it was that it was often a sexualised caricature of women being presented for entertainment. So while I agree very few boys watch and think they want to now dress as a pronified version of a woman for fun, they are definitely getting the message (as are little girls) that women are a joke and a sexualised joke at that. That's not ineffectual, I promise.
Drags are as cringeworthy as the blackface minstrels in that regard. It could make you think that women are being made fun of it the same way black people were being made a joke.
The minstrels were doing it while appropriating the music of people from Africa. I've never been to a drag show. Is there vaudevillianesque mimicry of women entertainers?
He likely does in his little chat groups. Ugh.