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Steve QJ's avatar

“ The left lost its moral compass a long time ago, just like the right. Its mania for 'inclusivity' and lightening up on sexual mores (which the world DID and still does need) has led it to becoming *too* inclusive, 'too' being defined as 'to the detriment of others'.”

Couldn’t agree more. It’s so heartbreaking to see what’s become if what I’ve always felt was my political team. Hijacked by a bunch of lunatics who are allowed to run wild because the reasonable majority are afraid of being called made-up names on Twitter.

Just cowardice all the way down.

And yeah, so weird what’s happened to Jon Stewart. There are so many flashes of his brilliance in his show, but somehow that makes the parts when he’s intellectually dishonest even more painful.

In his defence though, he was making a point about constitutional rights. Less a defence of drag for kids than saying, “hey, if the government has a responsibility to regulate a drag queen’s First Amendment right to perform in front of children, why don’t they have a responsibility to regulate a civilian’s Second Amendment right to buy a gun that can kill children?”

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Grow Some Labia's avatar

Maybe there wasn't enough context. I watched it twice, and didn't get that. I think he could have made his point better.

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jen segal's avatar

Cause voyeurism and pedophilia have a few more legal constraints (like precisely what you were discussing with Rogue) than irresponsible firing of weapons that catch kids in the crossfire? I believe what something can do is different from what someone is doing in front of children.

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Steve QJ's avatar

“ I believe what something can do is different from what someone is doing in front of children.”

Agreed. And I think both issues are worthy of attention. But as Jon was pointing out, guns are the leading cause of death for kids in America. So when Dahm is trying to repeal laws on gun control and trying to pass laws in drag shows, all while claiming his concern is safety, it highlights a certain hypocrisy, no?

I don’t know what Stewart’s position on Drag Queen story hour is. Sadly, I suspect he doesn’t see the issue (or wouldn’t admit to seeing it). But I don’t think this interview could be considered a defence of it.

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jen segal's avatar

Agreed, hypocritical for sure. I briefly dug into the ‘gun deaths of children’ story: age 1-19, excludes infants. I would be extremely interested in a breakout for age 16-18 (eg both hovering around that ‘age of consent’ thing and incorporating teen gangs.

We all shudder at the headline envisioning 5-year-olds shot in their car seat. I’m just wary of media manipulation.

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Chris Fox's avatar

I detest transvestites because every one of them I ever trusted stole from me, even pocketing 50¢ rolls of pennies while I was in the bathroom.

But telling stories to kids, sorry, I can't summon any outrage at that. The kids probably see them as clowns. I doubt very many boy children come out of story hour thinking "I want to dress as a woman."

Drags are the most ineffectual people on the planet.

I saw the Jon Stewart video. He handed that bearded gun nut his own ass. I just loved how he wouldn't let him change the subject, I wish to god there was more of that,.

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J W's avatar

I remember feeling outrage as a 7 year old girl at seeing drag queens, on tv. "So women are a joke for men to make fun of?" was my first thought. It didn't even occur to me how offensive it was that it was often a sexualised caricature of women being presented for entertainment. So while I agree very few boys watch and think they want to now dress as a pronified version of a woman for fun, they are definitely getting the message (as are little girls) that women are a joke and a sexualised joke at that. That's not ineffectual, I promise.

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Peaceful Dave's avatar

Drags are as cringeworthy as the blackface minstrels in that regard. It could make you think that women are being made fun of it the same way black people were being made a joke.

The minstrels were doing it while appropriating the music of people from Africa. I've never been to a drag show. Is there vaudevillianesque mimicry of women entertainers?

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