This exchange precisely illustrates the key points in this anti-racism discussion. Firstly, Drav’s short recount of history has a strong kernel of truth. Reflective, liberal Westerners’ first impulse is to acknowledge the history of European domination and be open to addressing residual institutional race and class privilege. So, the r…
This exchange precisely illustrates the key points in this anti-racism discussion. Firstly, Drav’s short recount of history has a strong kernel of truth. Reflective, liberal Westerners’ first impulse is to acknowledge the history of European domination and be open to addressing residual institutional race and class privilege. So, the rhetoric of anti-racism has space to grow into this moral panic.
The second point goes to Steve QJ’s strength, which is, ‘yeah, so everyone alive today is alive because their ancestors dominated and killed others, so, what is your plan to address that today?’ Drav’s answer is a very honest “we overthrow the West...a revolution is coming.” That is the nut of it. There is a segment of the progressive left that actually wants to overthrow current governing regimes. Use this rhetoric of revolutionary violence enough and people will start taking it seriously.
Lastly, and saddest, is the overtly racist stance toward “essentially the white race” and their “anti-human monoculture.” This belief that white people are uniquely bad is simply the psychological dehumanizing of the other tribe that has been the basis of genocidal wars forever. This is why many progressives discount the actual progress we’ve made against racism; they are more focused on hating than on progress in the current social structure.
“ Drav’s answer is a very honest “we overthrow the West...a revolution is coming.” That is the nut of it. There is a segment of the progressive left that actually wants to overthrow current governing regimes”
The thing is, while I understand why you say this, I don’t think this is honest at all. People like Drav don’t want to “overthrow the west”.
They say things like this a) because they think it makes them sound tough and virtuous without the fear that they’ll ever have to back up their words. And b) because what they mean by “the west” is “everybody who’s done better for themselves in life than me”. Come for *their* money or *their* comfort and see how quickly they change their tune.
The guise of caring about poverty or oppression is simply a way to justify their spite. Note, his racism isn’t limited to white people, anybody who disagrees with him becomes an acceptable target for his true character.
As I said, this is one of the worst aspects of “wokeness”. It allows awful human beings to believe that they’re the “good guys”.
This exchange precisely illustrates the key points in this anti-racism discussion. Firstly, Drav’s short recount of history has a strong kernel of truth. Reflective, liberal Westerners’ first impulse is to acknowledge the history of European domination and be open to addressing residual institutional race and class privilege. So, the rhetoric of anti-racism has space to grow into this moral panic.
The second point goes to Steve QJ’s strength, which is, ‘yeah, so everyone alive today is alive because their ancestors dominated and killed others, so, what is your plan to address that today?’ Drav’s answer is a very honest “we overthrow the West...a revolution is coming.” That is the nut of it. There is a segment of the progressive left that actually wants to overthrow current governing regimes. Use this rhetoric of revolutionary violence enough and people will start taking it seriously.
Lastly, and saddest, is the overtly racist stance toward “essentially the white race” and their “anti-human monoculture.” This belief that white people are uniquely bad is simply the psychological dehumanizing of the other tribe that has been the basis of genocidal wars forever. This is why many progressives discount the actual progress we’ve made against racism; they are more focused on hating than on progress in the current social structure.
“ Drav’s answer is a very honest “we overthrow the West...a revolution is coming.” That is the nut of it. There is a segment of the progressive left that actually wants to overthrow current governing regimes”
The thing is, while I understand why you say this, I don’t think this is honest at all. People like Drav don’t want to “overthrow the west”.
They say things like this a) because they think it makes them sound tough and virtuous without the fear that they’ll ever have to back up their words. And b) because what they mean by “the west” is “everybody who’s done better for themselves in life than me”. Come for *their* money or *their* comfort and see how quickly they change their tune.
The guise of caring about poverty or oppression is simply a way to justify their spite. Note, his racism isn’t limited to white people, anybody who disagrees with him becomes an acceptable target for his true character.
As I said, this is one of the worst aspects of “wokeness”. It allows awful human beings to believe that they’re the “good guys”.