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Chris Fox's avatar

At some point ("homophobia?") the suffix came to mean hatred, not fear. Ailurophobia is fear of cats, not hatred of them. Don't succumb to the ridiculous argument that the basis of hatred is fear, that is weak tea.

The correct suffix is -misia, as in homomisia, which I insist on using and which is gaining ground. I don't use "transmisia" much because I don't think it's as prevalent as the former, much though the "trans" people like to (love to) think of themselves as hated and oppressed. The suffix is more familiar as a prefix; misanthropy, misogyny, etc.

I don't think that many people are transmisic so much as sick and tired of what is so obviously a destructive fad. Being hectored over pronouns gets old fast and having to stay atop dozens and dozens of phony subgenders and infragenders is ridiculous.

As for suicide, the ones who react to affirmation pressures by the radicals and screw up their health with hormones or even get pieces they were born with hacked off, then later realize it was just a phase they were going through, have extraordinarily high suicide rates.

Suppose there was a way to commit suicide without cutting one's own flesh or something kinetic like going off a bridge or blowing one's brains out, just take a pill and go to sleep ... we'd have a very steep population drop.

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Grow Some Labia's avatar

I don't know, not with you on the basis of hatred being fear. 'Phobia' has always meant fear - it comes from the Greek word phobos, from the Greek god of fear and panic, Phobos. But you're right, -phobia has come to mean in SJ circles anyway, to include hatred. And not all dislike of certain aspects is a phobia; my ex thought homosexual sex was 'icky' but didn't have a problem making a gay guy his son's godfather.

As for -misia, I've never heard of it and it sounds too much like the academic jargonbabble beloved by SJWs who love big impressive words because they obscure the fact that they really don't know how they think or feel about their subjects. So maybe I'll wait for that one to become more commonly known.

Many have noted that the way to get rid of Donald Trump is to not pay attention to him - attention is the oxygen supply of the gross narcissist. That's what the trans movement wants - more attention. It would starve their gross narcissism, too.

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Chris Fox's avatar

Well if you've followed my writing on here at all you know of my contempt for jargon-babble and my passion for precision. The latter is at the level of obsession-compulsion and I have to actively repress the urge to make small corrections. The singular they drives me absolutely bonkers.

Admittedly the -misia prefix is not as well-known as -phobia but I never liked "homophobia" because it seems to parody murderous hatred as equivalent to the 50s ad of a woman standing on a chair going "Eeek! A mouse!"

I think that postmodernism sought legitimacy in educated-sounding nonsense and the "trans" movement does the same, and both are equally intellectually barren.

"Phobia" means fear, often irrational (agora- claustro-, ailuri- ...) sometimes not so irrational (arachno-, acro- ...) and in general Greek roots are not as well-known as Latin ones. I've never retreated from resisting "evolving language" BS and I resist wrong use of -phobia. And the SJWs and way too self-policingly conformist to learn "transmisia." All the more reason to use it.

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Peaceful Dave's avatar

I wish we were all (including me) precise and unambiguous, but we are not. Often purposefully.

A meme floating around social media (How social media works):

Me: I prefer mangos to oranges.

Random person: So basically, what you are saying is that you hate oranges. You also failed to mention pineapples, bananas and grapefruits. Educate yourself. I'm literally shaking.

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Chris Fox's avatar

In his state of the union address, the president FAILED to mention the contribution of left-handed genderqueer humyns!!! I am shaking with rage!! /s

The less time I spend on social media the better is my mood. I've pretty much gotten off all discussion platforms except this one. Facebook for the messenger, Twitter for very short snide posts, no Instagram, Reddit, or TikTok, not once.

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Lightwing's avatar

Agreed on the mood. I do find that I get depressed if I spend too much time online. I'm only on LinkedIn (for my biz). And I've pulled back massively on the time I spend on substack. I want a real life with real people. That said, I have met funny and interesting people online and have enjoyed the exchanges.

I eschewed debt and never got a 4-year degree (I have an AA and an AS) so I don't have a posse of intellectual friends. So I do enjoy the access to and conversation with people who "play in the field of ideas." Not too many of those in my visceral arena.

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Lightwing's avatar

I had to log on to like your comment for this: “…academic jargonbabble beloved by SJWs who love big impressive words because they obscure the fact that they really don't know how they think or feel about their subjects.” So apt.

The way to get rid of Donald Trump is to re-empower the working class. Like maybe not make them pay for rich people's student loans. Maybe not ship all of their jobs offshore. Stop slanting policy toward the rich in general would be a good idea.

And there is also this (in terms of getting rid of Trump): https://criticaltherapyantidote.org/2022/08/08/freud-explains-cancel-culture/ I know Freud's theories have been discredited but I still thought this article was spot on. Just drop Freud's nomenclature and go with the behavioral dynamics and it works.

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Grow Some Labia's avatar

Freud's views on how our psychology works is one of many, and none of them tell the 'whole story', they're just different ways of viewing the brain, all of them valid, IMO. Freud's view is very early, arguably a pioneer (although I could make a case for the Buddha as the earliest psychology pioneer). Much of what Freud taught has been discredited, as you point out, but I still keep an open mind on the id/ego/superego piece.

That's a very good article and one I'm going to pass on to a friend I just saw last night after being separated for three years by the pandemic (and life). He got a degree in 'community psychology' which I never heard of before, I wonder if it's a new field, but it seems to be about social justice, which has introduced some 'woke' ideas into him but he's not woke-crazy so far as I can tell.

He sent me an article yesterday he wants me to read, and I will likely send him this one because I pushed back somewhat on his 'woke' views the other night - we got into a private Facebook argument and then he called me to work it out like grownups did back in days of yore before we all got so divided and caught up for two hours and then he came over last night to watch bad movies, drink highballs and enjoy a gummy :) Hey, it's the only way to watch the Giant Spider Invasion (1975) and Sharktopus (2010)!

I ran across an old note to myself on article ideas...putting this one nearer the top on my list of things to write about...how to talk to wokies based on my experience arguing with Christian fundamentalists back when I lived in the States (and was younger and had time for this shit). One thing I learned back in the day was don't argue on their turf (the Bible) which you will never know as well as them. Force them onto yours (scientific/historical evidence) and hold their feet to the fire on the facts.

With the wokies, their Bible is social justice critical theories, and peer-reviewed research and evidence is their weak spot, particularly science. They'll be better-versed on history than Christian fundies but it will still be contaminated by their biases (who knew wokies had biases...:) )

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Lightwing's avatar

Follow on - also, woke infused therapy is just another example of experts shooting themselves in the foot, and the hand, and the head. I mean, how long before people just give up on experts altogether and revert to superstition or other belief systems? Do they really think they can play these head games with their "lessers" and get away with it scot free? Just because someone is not an expert in whatever or has a lesser IQ does not make them stupid. Their scorn is their demise.

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Lightwing's avatar

Yes. Behavioral pattens stay the same regardless of labels. Who would have thunk in the 60s that boomer's kids and grandkids (and some boomers themselves) would turn into the very religous fundies they pilloried at that time? If they could only see themselves objectively. Self-righteousness is an eternal element of the psyche, apparently.

The reason I follow what is happening in therapy is because I am an adult survivor. And I am super worried about vulnerable people entering therapy only to be white-shamed. Jesus. I mean these people are already f'd up and have low self-esteem and hate themselves because they have been shamed to hell and back and now you are going to tell them they carry the original sin of whiteness as well - one that has NO redemption? It won't end well. Some of these therapists are going to drive people to suicide. And it's so avoidable. Sigh...

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