I agree with your statement that woman who want it need private spaces. Apparently their are many woman who are not concerned about letting trans-woman in their space.
Trans-woman by definition have a mental health condition that they try to mitigate thru hormones and body affirming surgery. For many that works (eg Kaitlin Jenner) and for…
I agree with your statement that woman who want it need private spaces. Apparently their are many woman who are not concerned about letting trans-woman in their space.
Trans-woman by definition have a mental health condition that they try to mitigate thru hormones and body affirming surgery. For many that works (eg Kaitlin Jenner) and for some it doesn’t and they de-transition. Clearly it sucks to have gender dysphoria.
The question you don’t address is how to screen genetic men from going into woman’s spaces (or for that matter genetic woman from going into men’s spaces). Trans woman want to “pass” as a woman. Where should they take a pee and poop?
What about a genetic woman that is taking testosterone and has a beard, low voice and for all visual purposes appears as a man. Are you comfortable with them in cis-woman only spaces. Including if they have had gender affirming surgery?
I get the feelings. I don’t here practical solutions from you for both the cis and trans communities.
It's pretty simple. Females, no matter what they look like, should be using the restrooms, changing rooms and other single-sex spaces for females. Males, no matter what they look like, should be using the restrooms, changing rooms and other single-sex spaces for males. There is no feasible way to stop individuals who really can "pass" as a member of the opposite sex from accessing the single sex spaces of the opposite sex, but there are very few individuals who can pass. In real life, unlike in still photographs, people cannot use filters and photoshop to make themselves look as if they were of the opposite sex.
As for "trans-women by definition have a mental health condition that they try to mitigate thru hormones and body affirming surgery", why do you assume that this is true? By whose definition?
Are you aware of the extensive research done by psychologists such Dr. Ray Blanchard (https://x.com/BlanchardPhD) on men who say they feel like they are women or want to be women? Blanchard found that most of these are heterosexual men with the paraphilia (sexual fetish) of autogynephilia rather than effeminate homosexual men, which is what most people assume they are. These men become sexually aroused at the thought that they are women and/or have women's bodies such as women's breasts) and/or have female physiological processes such as menstruation, gestation, child birth and lactation.
Are we to consider this sexual fetish (or any sexual fetish) a "mental health condition" that women and girls are for some reason responsible for the amelioration of by allowing men with this sexual fetish to gratify themselves by being in female single-sex spaces since they get sexual satisfaction from this "affirmation" that others see them as women?
BTW, very few of these men who report "gender dysphoria" have their male genitalia amputated. And those who do take estrogen often titrate it so that they maintain their ability to get erections and experience orgasms while ejaculating. So the men accessing women's single sex spaces are not the de-sexed males many assume them to be, either physically or mentally.
The most famous book on the subject of autogynephilia is by Dr. Anne A. Lawrence, a male who himself is autogynephilic.
Here is the PDF of his book, Men Trapped in Men's Bodies.
Yes, there is allot of research trying to understand men and how their identity or sexual desires to be a woman relate. Personal I found this one - From Incel to Harvard, Neuroscientist on Gender Dysphoria and College Politics | Adam Omary EP 206 - as the most interesting. His research indicates that a person is is XY can develope the physically to have the mind of a woman.
As a gay person who has live through the last 60 years of societal judgements of being gay as first as psychiatric disorder that was treated with conversion therapy to now scientifically agreed that’s it’s a combination of genetics that is enable thru nurture and is fixed, I’m absolutely convinced that “science” that presumes to understand gender dysphoria is just pursuing their bias (a.l.a. Anthony Fauci).
Your bias is clear. You have a right to that bias.
I agree with your statement that woman who want it need private spaces. Apparently their are many woman who are not concerned about letting trans-woman in their space.
Trans-woman by definition have a mental health condition that they try to mitigate thru hormones and body affirming surgery. For many that works (eg Kaitlin Jenner) and for some it doesn’t and they de-transition. Clearly it sucks to have gender dysphoria.
The question you don’t address is how to screen genetic men from going into woman’s spaces (or for that matter genetic woman from going into men’s spaces). Trans woman want to “pass” as a woman. Where should they take a pee and poop?
What about a genetic woman that is taking testosterone and has a beard, low voice and for all visual purposes appears as a man. Are you comfortable with them in cis-woman only spaces. Including if they have had gender affirming surgery?
I get the feelings. I don’t here practical solutions from you for both the cis and trans communities.
It's pretty simple. Females, no matter what they look like, should be using the restrooms, changing rooms and other single-sex spaces for females. Males, no matter what they look like, should be using the restrooms, changing rooms and other single-sex spaces for males. There is no feasible way to stop individuals who really can "pass" as a member of the opposite sex from accessing the single sex spaces of the opposite sex, but there are very few individuals who can pass. In real life, unlike in still photographs, people cannot use filters and photoshop to make themselves look as if they were of the opposite sex.
As for "trans-women by definition have a mental health condition that they try to mitigate thru hormones and body affirming surgery", why do you assume that this is true? By whose definition?
Are you aware of the extensive research done by psychologists such Dr. Ray Blanchard (https://x.com/BlanchardPhD) on men who say they feel like they are women or want to be women? Blanchard found that most of these are heterosexual men with the paraphilia (sexual fetish) of autogynephilia rather than effeminate homosexual men, which is what most people assume they are. These men become sexually aroused at the thought that they are women and/or have women's bodies such as women's breasts) and/or have female physiological processes such as menstruation, gestation, child birth and lactation.
Are we to consider this sexual fetish (or any sexual fetish) a "mental health condition" that women and girls are for some reason responsible for the amelioration of by allowing men with this sexual fetish to gratify themselves by being in female single-sex spaces since they get sexual satisfaction from this "affirmation" that others see them as women?
BTW, very few of these men who report "gender dysphoria" have their male genitalia amputated. And those who do take estrogen often titrate it so that they maintain their ability to get erections and experience orgasms while ejaculating. So the men accessing women's single sex spaces are not the de-sexed males many assume them to be, either physically or mentally.
The most famous book on the subject of autogynephilia is by Dr. Anne A. Lawrence, a male who himself is autogynephilic.
Here is the PDF of his book, Men Trapped in Men's Bodies.
https://surveyanon.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/men-trapped-in-mens-bodies_book.pdf
Yes, there is allot of research trying to understand men and how their identity or sexual desires to be a woman relate. Personal I found this one - From Incel to Harvard, Neuroscientist on Gender Dysphoria and College Politics | Adam Omary EP 206 - as the most interesting. His research indicates that a person is is XY can develope the physically to have the mind of a woman.
As a gay person who has live through the last 60 years of societal judgements of being gay as first as psychiatric disorder that was treated with conversion therapy to now scientifically agreed that’s it’s a combination of genetics that is enable thru nurture and is fixed, I’m absolutely convinced that “science” that presumes to understand gender dysphoria is just pursuing their bias (a.l.a. Anthony Fauci).
Your bias is clear. You have a right to that bias.