On January 11th, 1923, following a series of refusals and rejections, an Indian man named Bhagat Singh Thind finally got his application for naturalised U.S. citizenship before the Supreme Court. There was only one problem; according...
The UK Supreme Court ruling acknowledges that trans people are entitled to human rights.
They are further granted special protections from bullying and harassment, which is needed.
What is not protected are the entitled demands to be in women’s spaces whenever they want to be.
What is not acknowledged is that trans-identified men (trans women) have basically the same criminality rate as other men when it comes to sexual and violent assaults. (Although the UK prison stats indicate a higher rate of sex offenders among trans-identified men than the general male prison population.)
And trans-identified women (trans men) have the same sexual victimization rate as other women.
Because violence and sexual harassment and assaults are still a primary tool used by men to control women, we have sex-based protections, which the UK Supreme Court defined.
"The UK Supreme Court ruling acknowledges that trans people are entitled to human rights."
Absolutely. Despite the exhausting victimhood-baiting, this was never about denying trans people human rights. It was about challenging the special privileges they were demanding that no other man has or considers himself entitled to.
Change your body any way you like. That is your absolute right. But when you want to start altering the way society functions because of your choice, that, good fellow, merits a serious conversation. And if you don't get your way in every single detail, that is not oppression.
There is nothing I find more detestable than cowards who comment from behind a block. If you have something to say, why not find the courage to say it to the person it's directed at? Anyway, bye now!!
My advice to men who think they are women. If you think that, there are a few things that you need to understand. First of all is that you are still a man because you can't change your biological sex. It's okay to dress any way you wish and to adopt any superficial, stereotypical attributes of women that you desire. Live your life. No one should care, I certainly don't.
However, because women are entitled to be treated fairly and to enjoy privacy from men there are certain things that are prohibited to you and me because we are men. You can't compete against women in most sports because it would be unfair. You can't go into women's private places like restrooms and locker rooms because that would make them feel unsafe. Finally, if you are a criminal you certainly can't be imprisoned with women.
It would make us actually unsafe, not just feeling unsafe. The problem with legally allowing any men to use women's privacy facilities is that it means we can no longer demand that they leave. And so if they have ill intent, they will be free to act on it and we will not have legal recourse until they actually do something bad. This is unacceptable.
And, unfortunately, it is still the legal reality in the United States.
Thats the problem. Should trans-right destroy women's rights? I have a wife, sisters, daughters, granddaughters so you can guess where I stand for personal reasons. I general our rights shouldn't negate the rights of others. When trans-rights negate women's rights are they privileges?
Men having to deal with mens violence. Why is all that up to women to deal with? Why do women have to change in front on men who feel like they are women? Why do we get the blame for mens violence against other men? Why do women have to share our spaces with men who feel they are women?
Going to prison is the number one risk factor in adult men being raped by other men. It does not matter if the man wishes to wear lipstick or not. Why do men who do not wear lipstick deserve to be at greater risk of rape than men who do wear lipstick?
Do something about the rape rate in men's prisons. There is no need to build additional prisons for men who wish to play pretend.
One of the many problems with formulating trans rights is that trans people are such a heterogenous group. Just taking transwomen, you've got HSTS, AGP, Prison-Onset-Gender-Dysphoria, post-op, pre-op, entirely non-medicalised, and that's before you get to the Philip-but-Pippa-on-Wednesdayses. If gender studies departments just focus on a taxonomy of trans identities and do nothing else (no really - NOTHING else) for the next few decades, I think that will be time well spent. Or at least better spent than the decades spent dismantling women's rights and driving the entire academic, political and NGO world mad.
This! The heterogeneous nature of anything should be called out when any one person attempts to represent a whole group or conversely(?) when others use one individual to represent the whole. Nobody can represent all of us (or them).
shoving other women into the path of violence? I thought we defined that trans women are not women? They are another, worthy, real and all rights deserving human, but def nor women- they are trans women and that is chill.
Great article, beyond the well reasoned points. I applaud you on how respectfully you approached this subject. Everyone is asking for more open discussions of difficult topics like this but then start with insults and derision, which only opens the divide between us wider and wider. I worry that if people keep up the hate that we might stop seeing people on the opposite side of a debate and lose our common sense of humanity.
Well, this will certainly draw fire, Steve. Your well-reasoned piece makes an apt comparison to race and raises important questions for trans activists even as it provides cover for the truly transphobic who will likely seize upon the court’s ruling as justification for discrimination and hate. Maybe it’s time science came up with a nuance pill. Thanks for writing this.
This? Great concept: "Imagine if Martin Luther King had hinged the civil rights movement on the claim that black people weren’t just equal to white people, but that they were white people, and that it was hateful, even borderline genocidal, to admit you could very easily see the difference."
Very well written. And a brilliant comparison that I had not considered: what if Brother Martin insisted that Black was White? Wow! Of course I see the absolute incredulity of insisting that one can change gender but not race. And I write the word race deliberately because that also entails absolute incredulity.
It's always been so insane to me that trans activists will say that nobody has the right to question what a woman is, when men who want to be woman want to have breasts and want to take their pee pee away (if not outright remove it) and like Mulvany, wish to go on shopping sprees and brag about their emotional instability. It's painfully obvious that all these men who want to be women know exactly what a woman is and envy them for it!
They envy women with good reason. How sad that they don't see the enviable qualities of being men.
Men compulsively imitate women to avoid male competition both socially and sexually. They are often quite successful, males imitating women die of male violence at half the rate of other men.
They also have male-free access to women for reproduction - rape in prison; male-free access to territory to mark - pissing in women’s bathrooms; male-free access to dominating groups of women - men in women’s sports, men claiming sex with lesbians, and so on.
Women imitate men to confuse men who seek them for sex / social domination. Most men are heterosexual so there is a basic aversion to sexual attraction to someone who appears male. These women also can claim more resources for themselves from other women who won’t challenge someone who appears as a dominant male.
The imitative behavior occurs in all classes of animals except amphibians.
Whenever there is intense sexual competition in nature, evolution will create a way for some organism to cheat, so to speak. Entirely natural, but creates situations very exploitive of women when men are the imitator as rape is natural yet abhorrent.
Humans don’t use pheromones to indicate sex or ovulation status, so it’s particularly easy for men to imitate women. Likewise humans are quite good at detecting other humans, but are poor at discriminating sex. Easy to confuse.
I wrote about the phenomenon and repercussions, a group of essays.
At one time trans-sex was about things like XXY chromosomes (a birth defect) or gender dysphoria which could be caused by a biological brain (there is such a thing) that is at odds with the sexual biology of the rest of the body. But they let attention seekers and absurdities like gender fluid and non-binary include themselves which made them a laughingstock.
When someone says that a man cannot have a baby and they respond with, a trans-woman can, they are saying that the trans prefix negates the word woman. They brought this upon themselves.
I have sympathy for the genuinely gender dysphoric and people with nonstandard chromosomes and something should be done for them. But it is their need to clean their own house to be taken seriously.
There's the rub, what the hell is trans? Typical of "leftists", and what the hell does that mean, everything is all about a big tent to enlarge the tribe, even though the people in the tent may not have much in common.
Trans writers (attention seekers) often mention intersex even though they themselves might not want to be a part of the tribe. Then there is sex dysphoria, and I use the word sex because this is not a bunch of social construct nonsense. For reasons that could include a brain with the biological sex characteristic opposite of the rest of their body biology or things unfathomable to me, is is a real, and I would think maddening condition.
And then there are the social construct people. Masculine trait women and effeminate trait men are still women and men and being contrary so social expectation be damned. Followed by attention seekers like the non-binary and gender fluid people who by definition do not have sex or gender dysphoria. And most outrageously, people gaming the system for access to nude gender divided nude spaces and such.
So what is trans really? The intersex and honestly dysphoric people have a difficult condition that they didn't ask for and we should try to help them find the most accepted and comfortable place in society possible. Unfortunately for them, in nude spaces, visible genitals rule the day.
For the others, who may make up the majority of whatever the trans movement is, my sympathy and empathy are rapidity declining, not that my opinion matters. I've mentioned elsewhere that they need to clean house because as long as the "transwomen are women PERIOD", "men can have babies", "gender is a social construct" and such, most of society will view them as ass clowns.
trans women are trans women- what is the problem? they deserve respect and dignity and their very own bathroom - or at least there should always be a gender neutral bathroom - and prisons should have sectors for trans women- to keep them safe- why can we only have two groupings why not four or more? As much as I want to, I cannot go join a kindergarten group and claim to be a child- but I can create an adult kindergarten group- Life is not fair and people with gender dysphoria, like anyone else who does not fit the "norm" or has been dealt a difficult, sometimes impossible hand should be respected as who they are but they ought to accept that while society will make space, it might not always be willing to pretend or give up the sandbox. What is so wrong with being a trans woman that she has to be labelled a woman?
The UK Supreme Court ruling acknowledges that trans people are entitled to human rights.
They are further granted special protections from bullying and harassment, which is needed.
What is not protected are the entitled demands to be in women’s spaces whenever they want to be.
What is not acknowledged is that trans-identified men (trans women) have basically the same criminality rate as other men when it comes to sexual and violent assaults. (Although the UK prison stats indicate a higher rate of sex offenders among trans-identified men than the general male prison population.)
And trans-identified women (trans men) have the same sexual victimization rate as other women.
Because violence and sexual harassment and assaults are still a primary tool used by men to control women, we have sex-based protections, which the UK Supreme Court defined.
Gender has nothing to do with it.
"The UK Supreme Court ruling acknowledges that trans people are entitled to human rights."
Absolutely. Despite the exhausting victimhood-baiting, this was never about denying trans people human rights. It was about challenging the special privileges they were demanding that no other man has or considers himself entitled to.
Change your body any way you like. That is your absolute right. But when you want to start altering the way society functions because of your choice, that, good fellow, merits a serious conversation. And if you don't get your way in every single detail, that is not oppression.
There is nothing I find more detestable than cowards who comment from behind a block. If you have something to say, why not find the courage to say it to the person it's directed at? Anyway, bye now!!
My advice to men who think they are women. If you think that, there are a few things that you need to understand. First of all is that you are still a man because you can't change your biological sex. It's okay to dress any way you wish and to adopt any superficial, stereotypical attributes of women that you desire. Live your life. No one should care, I certainly don't.
However, because women are entitled to be treated fairly and to enjoy privacy from men there are certain things that are prohibited to you and me because we are men. You can't compete against women in most sports because it would be unfair. You can't go into women's private places like restrooms and locker rooms because that would make them feel unsafe. Finally, if you are a criminal you certainly can't be imprisoned with women.
That's it, just like me.
It would make us actually unsafe, not just feeling unsafe. The problem with legally allowing any men to use women's privacy facilities is that it means we can no longer demand that they leave. And so if they have ill intent, they will be free to act on it and we will not have legal recourse until they actually do something bad. This is unacceptable.
And, unfortunately, it is still the legal reality in the United States.
Thats the problem. Should trans-right destroy women's rights? I have a wife, sisters, daughters, granddaughters so you can guess where I stand for personal reasons. I general our rights shouldn't negate the rights of others. When trans-rights negate women's rights are they privileges?
Men having to deal with mens violence. Why is all that up to women to deal with? Why do women have to change in front on men who feel like they are women? Why do we get the blame for mens violence against other men? Why do women have to share our spaces with men who feel they are women?
Lacy: You said it so well. Men like Glau who deny reality have a hard time dealing with it.
You are not a woman, sir. And you know you are not one.
Agree- there should be trans prisons
Alcatrans
LOL
Why?
Going to prison is the number one risk factor in adult men being raped by other men. It does not matter if the man wishes to wear lipstick or not. Why do men who do not wear lipstick deserve to be at greater risk of rape than men who do wear lipstick?
Do something about the rape rate in men's prisons. There is no need to build additional prisons for men who wish to play pretend.
Don’t worry, there’s no lipstick, makeup, or high heels in prison.
One of the many problems with formulating trans rights is that trans people are such a heterogenous group. Just taking transwomen, you've got HSTS, AGP, Prison-Onset-Gender-Dysphoria, post-op, pre-op, entirely non-medicalised, and that's before you get to the Philip-but-Pippa-on-Wednesdayses. If gender studies departments just focus on a taxonomy of trans identities and do nothing else (no really - NOTHING else) for the next few decades, I think that will be time well spent. Or at least better spent than the decades spent dismantling women's rights and driving the entire academic, political and NGO world mad.
This! The heterogeneous nature of anything should be called out when any one person attempts to represent a whole group or conversely(?) when others use one individual to represent the whole. Nobody can represent all of us (or them).
It's HER penis, you horrible bigot!!!!!!
shoving other women into the path of violence? I thought we defined that trans women are not women? They are another, worthy, real and all rights deserving human, but def nor women- they are trans women and that is chill.
Great article, beyond the well reasoned points. I applaud you on how respectfully you approached this subject. Everyone is asking for more open discussions of difficult topics like this but then start with insults and derision, which only opens the divide between us wider and wider. I worry that if people keep up the hate that we might stop seeing people on the opposite side of a debate and lose our common sense of humanity.
Bravo.
Well, this will certainly draw fire, Steve. Your well-reasoned piece makes an apt comparison to race and raises important questions for trans activists even as it provides cover for the truly transphobic who will likely seize upon the court’s ruling as justification for discrimination and hate. Maybe it’s time science came up with a nuance pill. Thanks for writing this.
This? Great concept: "Imagine if Martin Luther King had hinged the civil rights movement on the claim that black people weren’t just equal to white people, but that they were white people, and that it was hateful, even borderline genocidal, to admit you could very easily see the difference."
Very well written. And a brilliant comparison that I had not considered: what if Brother Martin insisted that Black was White? Wow! Of course I see the absolute incredulity of insisting that one can change gender but not race. And I write the word race deliberately because that also entails absolute incredulity.
It's always been so insane to me that trans activists will say that nobody has the right to question what a woman is, when men who want to be woman want to have breasts and want to take their pee pee away (if not outright remove it) and like Mulvany, wish to go on shopping sprees and brag about their emotional instability. It's painfully obvious that all these men who want to be women know exactly what a woman is and envy them for it!
They envy women with good reason. How sad that they don't see the enviable qualities of being men.
I do not have the option to edit, so I will add this correction: I didn't mean to type "take" their pee pee away, but "tuck."
Men compulsively imitate women to avoid male competition both socially and sexually. They are often quite successful, males imitating women die of male violence at half the rate of other men.
They also have male-free access to women for reproduction - rape in prison; male-free access to territory to mark - pissing in women’s bathrooms; male-free access to dominating groups of women - men in women’s sports, men claiming sex with lesbians, and so on.
Women imitate men to confuse men who seek them for sex / social domination. Most men are heterosexual so there is a basic aversion to sexual attraction to someone who appears male. These women also can claim more resources for themselves from other women who won’t challenge someone who appears as a dominant male.
The imitative behavior occurs in all classes of animals except amphibians.
Whenever there is intense sexual competition in nature, evolution will create a way for some organism to cheat, so to speak. Entirely natural, but creates situations very exploitive of women when men are the imitator as rape is natural yet abhorrent.
Humans don’t use pheromones to indicate sex or ovulation status, so it’s particularly easy for men to imitate women. Likewise humans are quite good at detecting other humans, but are poor at discriminating sex. Easy to confuse.
I wrote about the phenomenon and repercussions, a group of essays.
https://open.substack.com/pub/sufeitzy/p/mimesexuality-1-incipendum?r=o79yv&utm_medium=ios
At one time trans-sex was about things like XXY chromosomes (a birth defect) or gender dysphoria which could be caused by a biological brain (there is such a thing) that is at odds with the sexual biology of the rest of the body. But they let attention seekers and absurdities like gender fluid and non-binary include themselves which made them a laughingstock.
When someone says that a man cannot have a baby and they respond with, a trans-woman can, they are saying that the trans prefix negates the word woman. They brought this upon themselves.
I have sympathy for the genuinely gender dysphoric and people with nonstandard chromosomes and something should be done for them. But it is their need to clean their own house to be taken seriously.
Trans NEVER had anything to do with intersex conditions.
There's the rub, what the hell is trans? Typical of "leftists", and what the hell does that mean, everything is all about a big tent to enlarge the tribe, even though the people in the tent may not have much in common.
Trans writers (attention seekers) often mention intersex even though they themselves might not want to be a part of the tribe. Then there is sex dysphoria, and I use the word sex because this is not a bunch of social construct nonsense. For reasons that could include a brain with the biological sex characteristic opposite of the rest of their body biology or things unfathomable to me, is is a real, and I would think maddening condition.
And then there are the social construct people. Masculine trait women and effeminate trait men are still women and men and being contrary so social expectation be damned. Followed by attention seekers like the non-binary and gender fluid people who by definition do not have sex or gender dysphoria. And most outrageously, people gaming the system for access to nude gender divided nude spaces and such.
So what is trans really? The intersex and honestly dysphoric people have a difficult condition that they didn't ask for and we should try to help them find the most accepted and comfortable place in society possible. Unfortunately for them, in nude spaces, visible genitals rule the day.
For the others, who may make up the majority of whatever the trans movement is, my sympathy and empathy are rapidity declining, not that my opinion matters. I've mentioned elsewhere that they need to clean house because as long as the "transwomen are women PERIOD", "men can have babies", "gender is a social construct" and such, most of society will view them as ass clowns.
“transwoman” — compound word like “crayfish” which ain’t.
To answer your question, they’re guys in drag, male transvestites, if they still have their nuts attached, and sexless eunuchs if they don’t.
Easy peasy …
https://www.pittparents.com/p/monumental-settlement-against-la
What does trans have to do with LGB?
trans women are trans women- what is the problem? they deserve respect and dignity and their very own bathroom - or at least there should always be a gender neutral bathroom - and prisons should have sectors for trans women- to keep them safe- why can we only have two groupings why not four or more? As much as I want to, I cannot go join a kindergarten group and claim to be a child- but I can create an adult kindergarten group- Life is not fair and people with gender dysphoria, like anyone else who does not fit the "norm" or has been dealt a difficult, sometimes impossible hand should be respected as who they are but they ought to accept that while society will make space, it might not always be willing to pretend or give up the sandbox. What is so wrong with being a trans woman that she has to be labelled a woman?
Excellent!