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Grow Some Labia's avatar

I know. I expect it's going to get a LOT more violent soon, like in November.

You're right that we can't abandon our principles out of fear of what the Republicans will do next. Our principles CAN'T be abandoning the rule of law like they have. That makes us no better than they. I agree we need to keep them out of power but I'm not going to vote against my own interests, and I find the Democrats as hostile to women's rights as Republicans are. Oh big deal, the Republicans finally got rid of Roe. They did it with the consent and assent of millions of women who didn't care enough to vote intelligently, or to vote at all (Five Thirty Eight speculates that progressives who didn't vote at all in 2016 might have stopped Trump's victory as they probably would have swung back some of his swing states).

Unfortunately, there's no easy quick answer to this. I suspect it's a little like early Nazi Germany, but for *genuine* progressives and egalitarians. Right now you *can* leave if you want. Perhaps later you'll be told to get out. And then one day you can't leave anymore and political prisoners are digging their own mass graves.

I don't think America's ready for rule of law. I don't know what the answer is, Chris, but if we start turning as lawless and terrorist as them then we'll be truly lost too.

"Which government would you rather have lived with, Hitler's or Stalin's?"

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Read Wm. Shirer's "The Nightmare Years," about the period before the Third Reich. America isn't a little like early Nazi Germany, it's a *lot* like early Nazi Germany.

I remember 2016 without a trace of fondness. All the "Jill" people, all the "Bernie" people, all the "I'm not voting because they both suck" people. No question but that we could have dodged the Trump bullet and kept Kavanaugh and Twirly-Eyes Barrett and Gorsuch off the bench, And the people who couldn't bring themselves to vote for "Hillary" are probably the same people who want to make 2024 about gender identity

I keep remembering that Biden was the guy who told some gun nut who said Biden was going to take away his guns that he was "full of shit," and I had such hope that he would be a fighter.

It's not too late. An arrested Trump would be a study in crying tantrum and would do more to defuse Trumpism than his death would.

The abortion ruling guarantees the deaths of thousands of women. Digging our own graves to be machine-gunned into isn't very many steps from that.

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I haven't read that one, but I've read a few others on the subject, one, can't remember the name at this point, was about the time leading up to the rise of Hitler and beyond, because Bush had just gotten re-elected and I was trying to understand why people were embracing such a brainless authoritarian (oooooohhhhh, I had no idea how great he was in retrospect).

'Hitler's Willing Executioners', which I read more recently (about 10-12 years go) go into it as well.

But I don't see why that leads to we must become the enemy we fight.

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