I always get a good laugh over these people who "transition" (leaving out pediatric issues for now) and discover unexpected yet easily foreseeable consequences.
The backlash against "trans" is growing fast and it's matter of time before some states pass laws against opposite-sex people in bathrooms.
I always get a good laugh over these people who "transition" (leaving out pediatric issues for now) and discover unexpected yet easily foreseeable consequences.
The backlash against "trans" is growing fast and it's matter of time before some states pass laws against opposite-sex people in bathrooms.
No, you can't go into the men's bathroom because you look like a woman.
No, you can't go into the women's bathroom because you aren't a woman.
Go squat in the bushes and wipe with leaves and ponder that you should have thought of this before you made a choice you're stuck with.
The trans, mostly pertaining to trans-women may have doomed itself with overreach. When it went from sex and gender are different things to demand for gender expression to be treated as a person's sex in domains where sex is the issue was bound to get pushback.
Then came encouraging children to question their own gender, hiding it from parents and gender "denying" cross sex hormones, puberty blockers and surgery for minors which was certain to bring the wrath of parents.
A judge recently overturned Arizona's ban on males participating in female sports. The courts that generally support trans radical rulings are generally seen as from the Democrat Party which seems to have hitched it's wagon to trans. This could ultimately collapse the Democratic Party. Good riddance, it hasn't represented liberalism in years.
But then, in full disclosure, if I found a genie in a bottle my first wish would be for the abolition of all political parties with a mandatory gruesomely painful death for anyone suggesting their resurrection. The insistence upon lock-step adherence to a bunch of unrelated issues is a curse on reason leading to the destruction of society.
Once all differences are eliminated, the people that divide us on our differences will simply find new ones (differences) with which to divide us. Divisiveness is the problem, not differences. Case in point, if you disagree with the above, that is good for both of us if we keep engaging, not isolating.
"No, you can't go into the men's bathroom because you look like a woman.
No, you can't go into the women's bathroom because you aren't a woman."
If Blaire White walked into a men's bathroom that you were in washing your hands and you didn't know who it was, would you think they made a mistake or belonged there?
I don't know who that is, a man who looks like a woman?
In Bangkok, very beautiful transvestites use the men's room. I don't know if it has changed thru the years but the last time I was there you used the WC you were plumbed for. Men with skirts raised at urinals were a common sight since they didn't use the women's WC no matter how pretty they were.
Blaire White is a prominent Trump supporting trans Youtuber.
Are not the "lady boys" of Bangkok "working girls" so to speak? In that case it would make sense they would use the men's room since it might be a space to gain clientele. And I'm pretty sure the "trans" demographic in the USA is quite different socio-culturally from "lady boys". Transwomen in the USA want to pass as women and just lead regular lives. Lady boys of Bangkok are in business as lady boys.
And I'm pretty sure that many American women feel uncomfortable with a very masculine presenting person using women's bathrooms. Most of the bathroom convo centers around transwomen but what about transmen?
Thai kathoeys are not all prostitutes. They are the ones with visibility to foreigners but within Thai society they exist outside of the bars near the Khlong Toei district on Sukhumvit Road. The first one I got to know well told me he was saving up to get transition surgery. This was years ago. I considered him to just be a flaming gay exhibitionist. While he did prefer sex with men, he could have been "trans", I don't know. Trans was not yet a fad.
When you speak of degrees of comfort/discomfort with men and women in the wrong WC there is an obvious double standard, but the reason should be obvious. Perceived threat level.
Where's the double standard? I'm of the opinion that you should use the bathroom for which your presentation is most aligned. Blaire White should use the women's bathroom (despite being a biological male) and a masculine presenting transman should use the men's bathroom (despite being a biological female). This is why "passing" is so important to many transpeople.
Personally, I wouldn't care if men's rooms were unisex, but I am not the spokesman for all men. Would women use that if there was a women's WC? Some might, especially in airports where they suffer in long lines. I am not a woman so I cannot speak on their behalf and only know what they say. Most say that want women's spaces to be woman's spaces. As a general rule, the reasons for woman's spaces are about sex, rather than gender as something distinct from sex.
Passing? If they are truly passing it is a non-issue since nobody knows unless they step into a stall and urinate while standing, a giveaway sound.
While us blokes are speculating about what women want, here I go. For many women, it is simply about safety from men given the intimate privacy and vulnerabilities involved. For all the women that must be 'situationally aware' on the street, those dangers are multiplied in the tight confines of a bathroom. There are real dangers of being trapped inside a stall, being photographed while naked, being assaulted in tight quarters, and so on. It is a scary place. Women just aren't likely to do the random, disgusting things to which men (yes a very small percentage of men) subject them. If we are to be sincere about what many women want, safety should be at or near the top of the list.
Right. So if a feminine presenting transwoman who passes as a biological woman uses the women's bathroom, women will feel safe because they won't know she is biologically male. Conversely if a masculine presenting transman who passes as a biological man uses the women's bathroom, women will feel unsafe despite him being a biological female.
I always get a good laugh over these people who "transition" (leaving out pediatric issues for now) and discover unexpected yet easily foreseeable consequences.
The backlash against "trans" is growing fast and it's matter of time before some states pass laws against opposite-sex people in bathrooms.
No, you can't go into the men's bathroom because you look like a woman.
No, you can't go into the women's bathroom because you aren't a woman.
Go squat in the bushes and wipe with leaves and ponder that you should have thought of this before you made a choice you're stuck with.
The trans, mostly pertaining to trans-women may have doomed itself with overreach. When it went from sex and gender are different things to demand for gender expression to be treated as a person's sex in domains where sex is the issue was bound to get pushback.
Then came encouraging children to question their own gender, hiding it from parents and gender "denying" cross sex hormones, puberty blockers and surgery for minors which was certain to bring the wrath of parents.
A judge recently overturned Arizona's ban on males participating in female sports. The courts that generally support trans radical rulings are generally seen as from the Democrat Party which seems to have hitched it's wagon to trans. This could ultimately collapse the Democratic Party. Good riddance, it hasn't represented liberalism in years.
But then, in full disclosure, if I found a genie in a bottle my first wish would be for the abolition of all political parties with a mandatory gruesomely painful death for anyone suggesting their resurrection. The insistence upon lock-step adherence to a bunch of unrelated issues is a curse on reason leading to the destruction of society.
I’d vote for everyone’s skin to be the same tone. I’ve wished it for some time. No more crazed sneetches on the beaches.
I understand the thought, but I'd prefer that people appreciate the wonderful variety.
Once all differences are eliminated, the people that divide us on our differences will simply find new ones (differences) with which to divide us. Divisiveness is the problem, not differences. Case in point, if you disagree with the above, that is good for both of us if we keep engaging, not isolating.
"No, you can't go into the men's bathroom because you look like a woman.
No, you can't go into the women's bathroom because you aren't a woman."
If Blaire White walked into a men's bathroom that you were in washing your hands and you didn't know who it was, would you think they made a mistake or belonged there?
I don't know who that is, a man who looks like a woman?
In Bangkok, very beautiful transvestites use the men's room. I don't know if it has changed thru the years but the last time I was there you used the WC you were plumbed for. Men with skirts raised at urinals were a common sight since they didn't use the women's WC no matter how pretty they were.
Blaire White is a prominent Trump supporting trans Youtuber.
Are not the "lady boys" of Bangkok "working girls" so to speak? In that case it would make sense they would use the men's room since it might be a space to gain clientele. And I'm pretty sure the "trans" demographic in the USA is quite different socio-culturally from "lady boys". Transwomen in the USA want to pass as women and just lead regular lives. Lady boys of Bangkok are in business as lady boys.
And I'm pretty sure that many American women feel uncomfortable with a very masculine presenting person using women's bathrooms. Most of the bathroom convo centers around transwomen but what about transmen?
Thai kathoeys are not all prostitutes. They are the ones with visibility to foreigners but within Thai society they exist outside of the bars near the Khlong Toei district on Sukhumvit Road. The first one I got to know well told me he was saving up to get transition surgery. This was years ago. I considered him to just be a flaming gay exhibitionist. While he did prefer sex with men, he could have been "trans", I don't know. Trans was not yet a fad.
When you speak of degrees of comfort/discomfort with men and women in the wrong WC there is an obvious double standard, but the reason should be obvious. Perceived threat level.
Where's the double standard? I'm of the opinion that you should use the bathroom for which your presentation is most aligned. Blaire White should use the women's bathroom (despite being a biological male) and a masculine presenting transman should use the men's bathroom (despite being a biological female). This is why "passing" is so important to many transpeople.
Personally, I wouldn't care if men's rooms were unisex, but I am not the spokesman for all men. Would women use that if there was a women's WC? Some might, especially in airports where they suffer in long lines. I am not a woman so I cannot speak on their behalf and only know what they say. Most say that want women's spaces to be woman's spaces. As a general rule, the reasons for woman's spaces are about sex, rather than gender as something distinct from sex.
Passing? If they are truly passing it is a non-issue since nobody knows unless they step into a stall and urinate while standing, a giveaway sound.
While us blokes are speculating about what women want, here I go. For many women, it is simply about safety from men given the intimate privacy and vulnerabilities involved. For all the women that must be 'situationally aware' on the street, those dangers are multiplied in the tight confines of a bathroom. There are real dangers of being trapped inside a stall, being photographed while naked, being assaulted in tight quarters, and so on. It is a scary place. Women just aren't likely to do the random, disgusting things to which men (yes a very small percentage of men) subject them. If we are to be sincere about what many women want, safety should be at or near the top of the list.
Right. So if a feminine presenting transwoman who passes as a biological woman uses the women's bathroom, women will feel safe because they won't know she is biologically male. Conversely if a masculine presenting transman who passes as a biological man uses the women's bathroom, women will feel unsafe despite him being a biological female.
On first impression, yes. Violent crime, 96+% of the time is committed by a biological male, regardless of how they pass.
Who’s “they?”