I don't know who that is, a man who looks like a woman?
In Bangkok, very beautiful transvestites use the men's room. I don't know if it has changed thru the years but the last time I was there you used the WC you were plumbed for. Men with skirts raised at urinals were a common sight since they didn't use the women's WC no matter how pretty they were.
I don't know who that is, a man who looks like a woman?
In Bangkok, very beautiful transvestites use the men's room. I don't know if it has changed thru the years but the last time I was there you used the WC you were plumbed for. Men with skirts raised at urinals were a common sight since they didn't use the women's WC no matter how pretty they were.
Blaire White is a prominent Trump supporting trans Youtuber.
Are not the "lady boys" of Bangkok "working girls" so to speak? In that case it would make sense they would use the men's room since it might be a space to gain clientele. And I'm pretty sure the "trans" demographic in the USA is quite different socio-culturally from "lady boys". Transwomen in the USA want to pass as women and just lead regular lives. Lady boys of Bangkok are in business as lady boys.
And I'm pretty sure that many American women feel uncomfortable with a very masculine presenting person using women's bathrooms. Most of the bathroom convo centers around transwomen but what about transmen?
Thai kathoeys are not all prostitutes. They are the ones with visibility to foreigners but within Thai society they exist outside of the bars near the Khlong Toei district on Sukhumvit Road. The first one I got to know well told me he was saving up to get transition surgery. This was years ago. I considered him to just be a flaming gay exhibitionist. While he did prefer sex with men, he could have been "trans", I don't know. Trans was not yet a fad.
When you speak of degrees of comfort/discomfort with men and women in the wrong WC there is an obvious double standard, but the reason should be obvious. Perceived threat level.
Where's the double standard? I'm of the opinion that you should use the bathroom for which your presentation is most aligned. Blaire White should use the women's bathroom (despite being a biological male) and a masculine presenting transman should use the men's bathroom (despite being a biological female). This is why "passing" is so important to many transpeople.
Personally, I wouldn't care if men's rooms were unisex, but I am not the spokesman for all men. Would women use that if there was a women's WC? Some might, especially in airports where they suffer in long lines. I am not a woman so I cannot speak on their behalf and only know what they say. Most say that want women's spaces to be woman's spaces. As a general rule, the reasons for woman's spaces are about sex, rather than gender as something distinct from sex.
Passing? If they are truly passing it is a non-issue since nobody knows unless they step into a stall and urinate while standing, a giveaway sound.
While us blokes are speculating about what women want, here I go. For many women, it is simply about safety from men given the intimate privacy and vulnerabilities involved. For all the women that must be 'situationally aware' on the street, those dangers are multiplied in the tight confines of a bathroom. There are real dangers of being trapped inside a stall, being photographed while naked, being assaulted in tight quarters, and so on. It is a scary place. Women just aren't likely to do the random, disgusting things to which men (yes a very small percentage of men) subject them. If we are to be sincere about what many women want, safety should be at or near the top of the list.
Right. So if a feminine presenting transwoman who passes as a biological woman uses the women's bathroom, women will feel safe because they won't know she is biologically male. Conversely if a masculine presenting transman who passes as a biological man uses the women's bathroom, women will feel unsafe despite him being a biological female.
I don't know who that is, a man who looks like a woman?
In Bangkok, very beautiful transvestites use the men's room. I don't know if it has changed thru the years but the last time I was there you used the WC you were plumbed for. Men with skirts raised at urinals were a common sight since they didn't use the women's WC no matter how pretty they were.
Blaire White is a prominent Trump supporting trans Youtuber.
Are not the "lady boys" of Bangkok "working girls" so to speak? In that case it would make sense they would use the men's room since it might be a space to gain clientele. And I'm pretty sure the "trans" demographic in the USA is quite different socio-culturally from "lady boys". Transwomen in the USA want to pass as women and just lead regular lives. Lady boys of Bangkok are in business as lady boys.
And I'm pretty sure that many American women feel uncomfortable with a very masculine presenting person using women's bathrooms. Most of the bathroom convo centers around transwomen but what about transmen?
Thai kathoeys are not all prostitutes. They are the ones with visibility to foreigners but within Thai society they exist outside of the bars near the Khlong Toei district on Sukhumvit Road. The first one I got to know well told me he was saving up to get transition surgery. This was years ago. I considered him to just be a flaming gay exhibitionist. While he did prefer sex with men, he could have been "trans", I don't know. Trans was not yet a fad.
When you speak of degrees of comfort/discomfort with men and women in the wrong WC there is an obvious double standard, but the reason should be obvious. Perceived threat level.
Where's the double standard? I'm of the opinion that you should use the bathroom for which your presentation is most aligned. Blaire White should use the women's bathroom (despite being a biological male) and a masculine presenting transman should use the men's bathroom (despite being a biological female). This is why "passing" is so important to many transpeople.
Personally, I wouldn't care if men's rooms were unisex, but I am not the spokesman for all men. Would women use that if there was a women's WC? Some might, especially in airports where they suffer in long lines. I am not a woman so I cannot speak on their behalf and only know what they say. Most say that want women's spaces to be woman's spaces. As a general rule, the reasons for woman's spaces are about sex, rather than gender as something distinct from sex.
Passing? If they are truly passing it is a non-issue since nobody knows unless they step into a stall and urinate while standing, a giveaway sound.
While us blokes are speculating about what women want, here I go. For many women, it is simply about safety from men given the intimate privacy and vulnerabilities involved. For all the women that must be 'situationally aware' on the street, those dangers are multiplied in the tight confines of a bathroom. There are real dangers of being trapped inside a stall, being photographed while naked, being assaulted in tight quarters, and so on. It is a scary place. Women just aren't likely to do the random, disgusting things to which men (yes a very small percentage of men) subject them. If we are to be sincere about what many women want, safety should be at or near the top of the list.
Right. So if a feminine presenting transwoman who passes as a biological woman uses the women's bathroom, women will feel safe because they won't know she is biologically male. Conversely if a masculine presenting transman who passes as a biological man uses the women's bathroom, women will feel unsafe despite him being a biological female.
On first impression, yes. Violent crime, 96+% of the time is committed by a biological male, regardless of how they pass.