"I know so many people and have heard so many more stories of people, trans or not, who have been cowed into silence in their workplaces"
Mixed feelings about this. On the one hand there is no doubt in my mind that the workplace was the frontline of gay political advancement; it was hard to maintain the monolithic hatred of a reviled min…
"I know so many people and have heard so many more stories of people, trans or not, who have been cowed into silence in their workplaces"
Mixed feelings about this. On the one hand there is no doubt in my mind that the workplace was the frontline of gay political advancement; it was hard to maintain the monolithic hatred of a reviled minority when you work with one who you can't help but note is an OK guy.
But. Nobody pretends to be gay to get attention, who would? And as I have said many times the great majority of "trans" are fakes, they are not gender dysphoric and when "trans" becomes unremarkable they will find another way to keep themselves at the center of attention.
Watch this; you can ignore the framing by the Black Conservative, the only thing he gets right is noting that "they" is plural, but listen to the girl and her ready recitation of "misgendered" and "my gender identity" and "correct pronouns."
I take pains to distinguish the authentically transgendered from the "trans" like this idiotic person and while I am supportive of the former I have had it up to where my hairline used to be with the latter.
If I were at work and someone was putting "he/him" in an email signature, I would raise a stink about it. That shit isn't what we work for.
"Mixed feelings about this. On the one hand there is no doubt in my mind that the workplace was the frontline of gay political advancement"
Yeah, the problem isn't trans inclusion. Having more people meet trans people is a good thing. Just as, as you say, having more people meet gay people was a good thing.
The key difference, the reason I hate it when trans people compare themselves to gay people or black people, is that gay people and black people weren't asking for anything,. You didn't have to change the words you used, you didn't have to lie about biology, you just had to interact with that person on a human level.
It's all the stuff behind that, which you're absolutely not allowed to talk about, that's the issue. Refusing to put pronouns in your bio will get you in real hassle in some companies. It's stuff like that that's ridiculous. Gay people never required companywide behavioural changes.
Right now impressions of "trans" people are being made by those people with all the demands and the instantaneous accusations of "transphobia" who make such nuisances of themselves.
Well, before people like me who came to work candid about being gay but without the facial hair statements, sadomasochism gear, and cock rings, impressions of gay people were set by bondage buddies with faces like armpits who put on that horrid voice when others walked by.
So, yes, meeting some "trans" coworkers who didn't spend half their time in HR whining about being "misgendered" might do some good.
Because I doubt many companies are doing cartwheels about having employees like the girl in the video.
Any company that insisted I have a pronoun pair in my bio could have my resignation, But I haven't worked onsite since mid 2010 and never will again.
"Nobody pretends to be gay to get attention, who would?" Political/advantageous "lesbians". The (usually hot) women who claim to be 'lesbians', maybe even live the lie for awhile, to be 'cool' progressives, or to 'smash the patriarchy', shock their parents & the authority figures in their lives. I don't know if young women are doing that as much now, I saw it when I was younger and being gay was less mainstream and acceptable.
I had a friend who was a 'bullshit lesbian' for awhile, although I think for her it was less political - it was because men were frustrating for her (she was overweight and not very attractive, mostly because she didn't smile, she was quite pretty when she did, which wasn't much) and because she seemed never to outgrow the finding-your-identity thing. She announced she was 'coming out' about being gay at some point after her divorce, having claimed to be bisexual for years. I'd known her since the mid-80s and I thought, "There's no way she's gay, or even bisexual. She likes dick too much!" She had one or two gay relationships while she was going through her 'gay phase' and now she's remarried. To a guy.
I do everything I can manage to avoid reading anything about celebrities so this is new to me. I had never heard of "Kanye West" before a few weeks ago.
There was a time when claiming bisexuality was fashionable; didn't last long, and Lou Reed put an end to it by noting that you aren't gay if you don't like to suck dick.
I like people who don't smile. Unless they have a reason; The Smile came out of TV advertising and if you look at yearbook photos from high schools you won't see a lot of vacuous grins before 1955 or so.
I only read celebrity news if there's something interesting about the person. I never had much of an opinion on the actress Anne Hathaway - always liked her, but wouldn't describe myself as a 'fan' - until I read an article about a speech she gave a few weeks ago where she spoke candidly about how it felt and what she did in the aftermath of being subjected to a bizarre hate campaign on Twitter. She wasn't 'canceled', she hadn't done anything wrong now or thirty years ago, people just started hating on her. I paid attention because I'm interested in the mechanics of social media hatred and how we can fight 'cancel culture' and I wrote an article about her on Vocal as I found her speech and her growth out of it impressive. She's an example of a woman who took back her power and didn't allow the bitches to grind her down (and it appears to be mostly women hating on her - figures). Kanye West is a bit interesting now because he's kind of like Trump, except much smarter and he actually earned his billions honestly, rather than through breaking every real estate law in New York. I called him the Black Trump (wouldn't be surprised if he runs for President one day) until the rise of Herschel Walker, the new Black Trump who's as dumb as Donald.
"I know so many people and have heard so many more stories of people, trans or not, who have been cowed into silence in their workplaces"
Mixed feelings about this. On the one hand there is no doubt in my mind that the workplace was the frontline of gay political advancement; it was hard to maintain the monolithic hatred of a reviled minority when you work with one who you can't help but note is an OK guy.
But. Nobody pretends to be gay to get attention, who would? And as I have said many times the great majority of "trans" are fakes, they are not gender dysphoric and when "trans" becomes unremarkable they will find another way to keep themselves at the center of attention.
Watch this; you can ignore the framing by the Black Conservative, the only thing he gets right is noting that "they" is plural, but listen to the girl and her ready recitation of "misgendered" and "my gender identity" and "correct pronouns."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFjUjSJplfs&t=123s
Would you want to work with her?
I take pains to distinguish the authentically transgendered from the "trans" like this idiotic person and while I am supportive of the former I have had it up to where my hairline used to be with the latter.
If I were at work and someone was putting "he/him" in an email signature, I would raise a stink about it. That shit isn't what we work for.
"Mixed feelings about this. On the one hand there is no doubt in my mind that the workplace was the frontline of gay political advancement"
Yeah, the problem isn't trans inclusion. Having more people meet trans people is a good thing. Just as, as you say, having more people meet gay people was a good thing.
The key difference, the reason I hate it when trans people compare themselves to gay people or black people, is that gay people and black people weren't asking for anything,. You didn't have to change the words you used, you didn't have to lie about biology, you just had to interact with that person on a human level.
It's all the stuff behind that, which you're absolutely not allowed to talk about, that's the issue. Refusing to put pronouns in your bio will get you in real hassle in some companies. It's stuff like that that's ridiculous. Gay people never required companywide behavioural changes.
Right now impressions of "trans" people are being made by those people with all the demands and the instantaneous accusations of "transphobia" who make such nuisances of themselves.
Well, before people like me who came to work candid about being gay but without the facial hair statements, sadomasochism gear, and cock rings, impressions of gay people were set by bondage buddies with faces like armpits who put on that horrid voice when others walked by.
So, yes, meeting some "trans" coworkers who didn't spend half their time in HR whining about being "misgendered" might do some good.
Because I doubt many companies are doing cartwheels about having employees like the girl in the video.
Any company that insisted I have a pronoun pair in my bio could have my resignation, But I haven't worked onsite since mid 2010 and never will again.
My Twitter pronouns are hey/you :)
"Nobody pretends to be gay to get attention, who would?" Political/advantageous "lesbians". The (usually hot) women who claim to be 'lesbians', maybe even live the lie for awhile, to be 'cool' progressives, or to 'smash the patriarchy', shock their parents & the authority figures in their lives. I don't know if young women are doing that as much now, I saw it when I was younger and being gay was less mainstream and acceptable.
I had a friend who was a 'bullshit lesbian' for awhile, although I think for her it was less political - it was because men were frustrating for her (she was overweight and not very attractive, mostly because she didn't smile, she was quite pretty when she did, which wasn't much) and because she seemed never to outgrow the finding-your-identity thing. She announced she was 'coming out' about being gay at some point after her divorce, having claimed to be bisexual for years. I'd known her since the mid-80s and I thought, "There's no way she's gay, or even bisexual. She likes dick too much!" She had one or two gay relationships while she was going through her 'gay phase' and now she's remarried. To a guy.
I do everything I can manage to avoid reading anything about celebrities so this is new to me. I had never heard of "Kanye West" before a few weeks ago.
There was a time when claiming bisexuality was fashionable; didn't last long, and Lou Reed put an end to it by noting that you aren't gay if you don't like to suck dick.
I like people who don't smile. Unless they have a reason; The Smile came out of TV advertising and if you look at yearbook photos from high schools you won't see a lot of vacuous grins before 1955 or so.
I only read celebrity news if there's something interesting about the person. I never had much of an opinion on the actress Anne Hathaway - always liked her, but wouldn't describe myself as a 'fan' - until I read an article about a speech she gave a few weeks ago where she spoke candidly about how it felt and what she did in the aftermath of being subjected to a bizarre hate campaign on Twitter. She wasn't 'canceled', she hadn't done anything wrong now or thirty years ago, people just started hating on her. I paid attention because I'm interested in the mechanics of social media hatred and how we can fight 'cancel culture' and I wrote an article about her on Vocal as I found her speech and her growth out of it impressive. She's an example of a woman who took back her power and didn't allow the bitches to grind her down (and it appears to be mostly women hating on her - figures). Kanye West is a bit interesting now because he's kind of like Trump, except much smarter and he actually earned his billions honestly, rather than through breaking every real estate law in New York. I called him the Black Trump (wouldn't be surprised if he runs for President one day) until the rise of Herschel Walker, the new Black Trump who's as dumb as Donald.