I don't think you have a problem with true progressives; you have a problem with the Regressives, who style themselves progressives but have married the victim narratives (all of them!) and live in constant fear that some marginalized person somewhere might exercise some actual empowerment and responsibility.
I don't think you have a problem with true progressives; you have a problem with the Regressives, who style themselves progressives but have married the victim narratives (all of them!) and live in constant fear that some marginalized person somewhere might exercise some actual empowerment and responsibility.
I have as much disdain for those who self-/infantilize black people as well as those who do the same for feminism. You're fighting for genuine black pride (in yourselves, in your accomplishments) and I'm doing the same for women - who will need all the strength and personal power they can muster now that their body autonomy rights are about to fly out the window.
"I don't think you have a problem with true progressives; you have a problem with the Regressives, who style themselves progressives but have married the victim narratives"
Yeah, honestly I'm having trouble teasing one kind of "progressive" apart from the other at the moment.😅
Also very much attached to the label "progressive" in my mind are the people who are too afraid to tell the truth for fear of losing virtue signalling points, so they just repeat whatever nonsense is popular at any given moment. I can respect sincerity, even if I strongly disagree with the views held, but all too often, I find myself talking to people who don't even believe the things they're saying. They're just saying them out of pure self-interest.
p.s. I'm not fighting for black pride. I'm fighting to kill the idea that any word; pride, pain, love, power, etc. needs to be prefixed with the word "black" or "white." We're all just people.
Yeah, there's a lot of lapdogging going on I think because people are afraid to speak out, or don't know how to effectively defend their intelligent, rational, but highly unpopular positions. Also, there's a fear of getting cancelled - the left-wing version of an armed 'protester' at a city hall meeting. Maybe they're afraid of being on the 'wrong' side of history even as they must know deep down the secular fundamentalist nonsense coming from the wokenazis will fall like the house of cards all hateful, ideological positions are. This is what *I'm* fighting for...helping those of us closer to the centre (from either side) find the language and the courage to challenge and speak out against left-wing extremism (much easier when it's not your own, n'est-ce pas? I never cared what Republicans and Christian fundamentalists thought of me when I fought them in the US). Unfortunately, the left has become as vicious as the right.
'Regressive Left' was coined by ex-Islamist Maajid Nawaz in 2006 to describe lefties who condemned white men/Republicans/Christians of misogynist, homophobic, racist, terrorist beliefs, values and practices, while ignoring them from Islamic extremists. It's since evolved to include any left-wing position in which one ignores what is done to others by 'disadvantaged' groups to others. Like believing that white skin is original sin, whereas they reject the Curse of Ham :) These are the ones who think we don't have the 'right' to 'force' our 'imperialist, colonialist' practices or values on other peoples whose practices and values may differ greatly from ours. So they'll ignore or refuse to condemn FGM in Africans, Middle Easterners, and Indians (esp as they've all be colonized at one point or another by Europeans), while they'd lose their shit if Donald Trump suggested or a Republican politician introduced legislation to make it legal for American parents to cut their daughters.
But, it's good enough for little brown and black girls elsewhere, I guess. (No, no racism to see here...please move along...!)
It's one thing to criticize the hijab and another to legislate it - the hijab doesn't poses no threat to personal safety and really is a personal choice, whereas FGM shouldn't be if you believe in the equality and safety of *all* human beings, even if some cultures don't share those views. Part of the reason why slavery went away in the US is because we were getting a lot of pressure from Europe to do it - they'd all gotten abolished it already. (Canada did in 1809).
I know you're not fighting for black pride. We both get that pride is for accomplishments, and even though none of us are colour-blind, it's what we should be striving for....kinda like What Would Jesus Do.
I don't think you have a problem with true progressives; you have a problem with the Regressives, who style themselves progressives but have married the victim narratives (all of them!) and live in constant fear that some marginalized person somewhere might exercise some actual empowerment and responsibility.
I have as much disdain for those who self-/infantilize black people as well as those who do the same for feminism. You're fighting for genuine black pride (in yourselves, in your accomplishments) and I'm doing the same for women - who will need all the strength and personal power they can muster now that their body autonomy rights are about to fly out the window.
"I don't think you have a problem with true progressives; you have a problem with the Regressives, who style themselves progressives but have married the victim narratives"
Yeah, honestly I'm having trouble teasing one kind of "progressive" apart from the other at the moment.😅
Also very much attached to the label "progressive" in my mind are the people who are too afraid to tell the truth for fear of losing virtue signalling points, so they just repeat whatever nonsense is popular at any given moment. I can respect sincerity, even if I strongly disagree with the views held, but all too often, I find myself talking to people who don't even believe the things they're saying. They're just saying them out of pure self-interest.
p.s. I'm not fighting for black pride. I'm fighting to kill the idea that any word; pride, pain, love, power, etc. needs to be prefixed with the word "black" or "white." We're all just people.
Yeah, there's a lot of lapdogging going on I think because people are afraid to speak out, or don't know how to effectively defend their intelligent, rational, but highly unpopular positions. Also, there's a fear of getting cancelled - the left-wing version of an armed 'protester' at a city hall meeting. Maybe they're afraid of being on the 'wrong' side of history even as they must know deep down the secular fundamentalist nonsense coming from the wokenazis will fall like the house of cards all hateful, ideological positions are. This is what *I'm* fighting for...helping those of us closer to the centre (from either side) find the language and the courage to challenge and speak out against left-wing extremism (much easier when it's not your own, n'est-ce pas? I never cared what Republicans and Christian fundamentalists thought of me when I fought them in the US). Unfortunately, the left has become as vicious as the right.
'Regressive Left' was coined by ex-Islamist Maajid Nawaz in 2006 to describe lefties who condemned white men/Republicans/Christians of misogynist, homophobic, racist, terrorist beliefs, values and practices, while ignoring them from Islamic extremists. It's since evolved to include any left-wing position in which one ignores what is done to others by 'disadvantaged' groups to others. Like believing that white skin is original sin, whereas they reject the Curse of Ham :) These are the ones who think we don't have the 'right' to 'force' our 'imperialist, colonialist' practices or values on other peoples whose practices and values may differ greatly from ours. So they'll ignore or refuse to condemn FGM in Africans, Middle Easterners, and Indians (esp as they've all be colonized at one point or another by Europeans), while they'd lose their shit if Donald Trump suggested or a Republican politician introduced legislation to make it legal for American parents to cut their daughters.
But, it's good enough for little brown and black girls elsewhere, I guess. (No, no racism to see here...please move along...!)
It's one thing to criticize the hijab and another to legislate it - the hijab doesn't poses no threat to personal safety and really is a personal choice, whereas FGM shouldn't be if you believe in the equality and safety of *all* human beings, even if some cultures don't share those views. Part of the reason why slavery went away in the US is because we were getting a lot of pressure from Europe to do it - they'd all gotten abolished it already. (Canada did in 1809).
I know you're not fighting for black pride. We both get that pride is for accomplishments, and even though none of us are colour-blind, it's what we should be striving for....kinda like What Would Jesus Do.