Have you considered that male violence is inevitable, and is something to be managed, not eliminated? I think men should be steered away from violence & given healthy outlets, but I also think women can be encouraged to actively probe men, try to figure who’s manipulative & violent. Current internet feminism doesn’t want to acknowledge t…
Have you considered that male violence is inevitable, and is something to be managed, not eliminated? I think men should be steered away from violence & given healthy outlets, but I also think women can be encouraged to actively probe men, try to figure who’s manipulative & violent. Current internet feminism doesn’t want to acknowledge that women can & should play an active role in managing male violence, they say “it’s not our problem.” But men & women are interdependent, so I think it’s everyone’s problem.
I think it would be fair to state that women's advocacy has played an enormous role in managing or mitigating the impact men's violence from the early development of women's shelters, to raising awareness, to working towards a justice system that is beginning to take it seriously and so on and so on. I think feminism has been very active in this way. But solving the root problem of male violence towards women and children is not a something that women should be asked to do and I think asking women to actively probe men to find out if they are violent is a bit like suggesting a game of Russian roulette.
Actively probing people is a life skill. It's only like playing Russian roulette if you're bad at it. If a man is violent to a woman that's a terrible thing, but you talk about "solving the root problem of male violence." I think that problem can be mitigated, but not solved. The feminist strategy has been to put all the responsibility on men, and that has worked to some extent, but I think it's having severe diminishing returns.
When people suggest, as I did, that women be active and probe, feminists generally reject it, as you did, and say it's unreasonable, or victim-blaming. But do you really think women shouldn't probe and be active? To me that's just part of being an adult, and feminism should encourage women to be active, to probe and investigate, as they explore the world.
Have you considered that male violence is inevitable, and is something to be managed, not eliminated? I think men should be steered away from violence & given healthy outlets, but I also think women can be encouraged to actively probe men, try to figure who’s manipulative & violent. Current internet feminism doesn’t want to acknowledge that women can & should play an active role in managing male violence, they say “it’s not our problem.” But men & women are interdependent, so I think it’s everyone’s problem.
I think it would be fair to state that women's advocacy has played an enormous role in managing or mitigating the impact men's violence from the early development of women's shelters, to raising awareness, to working towards a justice system that is beginning to take it seriously and so on and so on. I think feminism has been very active in this way. But solving the root problem of male violence towards women and children is not a something that women should be asked to do and I think asking women to actively probe men to find out if they are violent is a bit like suggesting a game of Russian roulette.
Actively probing people is a life skill. It's only like playing Russian roulette if you're bad at it. If a man is violent to a woman that's a terrible thing, but you talk about "solving the root problem of male violence." I think that problem can be mitigated, but not solved. The feminist strategy has been to put all the responsibility on men, and that has worked to some extent, but I think it's having severe diminishing returns.
When people suggest, as I did, that women be active and probe, feminists generally reject it, as you did, and say it's unreasonable, or victim-blaming. But do you really think women shouldn't probe and be active? To me that's just part of being an adult, and feminism should encourage women to be active, to probe and investigate, as they explore the world.