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Peaceful Dave's avatar

In the early 70s I was a contractor on an Airforce base. At that time female airmen were being assigned to clean both women's and men's WC. They didn't shut them down and a female airman was cleaning urinals while I was using one. I've stood next to a beautiful skirt raised Thai kathoey at urinals in the men's room in Bangkok. In Thailand and China there have been women cleaning the men's room with me in it. In Xi'an a big restroom access walked into the urinal area. Women turned left right away to go to the lady's women only throne room, men walked past them to the men's thrones. In none of those cases did I feel threatened or even uncomfortable.

That is very different from nude spaces like women's shower and changing rooms at a gym. If you have an exposed penis, you don't belong there because I have no doubt that that would be uncomfortable at the very least for women also in a state of nudity. The problem with transwomen is that women have no way of knowing if someone has true gender dysphoria and are not likely to be a threat or they are attention seekers or worse.

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Steve QJ's avatar

“That is very different from nude spaces like women's shower and changing rooms at a gym.”

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One of the most frequent mistakes I see people making on this issue is acting as if all private spaces are the same or serve the same function.

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Libby's avatar

We're male airmen assigned to clean both?

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Peaceful Dave's avatar

I don't know. I never went into the women's head. No one ever told me that

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