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Grow Some Labia's avatar

Did you see Rose Anderson's on Medium last week take including how white some of the movement is? I had already suspected the movement was either too white or being co-opted by white people but I wasn't sure; she answered the question (co-opted by white people) and mentioned the gay male 'Karen' who threatened to call the cops on Chappelle when he challenged them over violating his privacy.

It got to me to wondering whether that's maybe another key piece of the puzzle - not just male entitlement some of these trans chicks aren't ready to give up, but maybe there's a certain level of racial entitlement involved too. Made me wonder whether declaring one's self gay or 'trans' has become the last safe bastion of the overprivileged white male to act like an entitled jerkwad and not be challenged on it (because the Trans Woman is more Sacred than Mary).

Otherwise, much agreed as always with what you've said. I really can't get over how much the drama is over trans issues and not all the other things Chappelle said. My boyfriend and I laughed a bit guiltily over his jokes about coming in a priest's face but we're both a little anti-Catholic over the pedophile stuff (well actually, he's a lot more anti-Catholic but in his defense, he was raised Catholic....I was merely a Rebel Lutheran back in the day LOL).

Actually, I thought there was a little bit of a take-back-the-power moment in that joke. I Googled later to see if Chappelle had ever admitted to being molested by a priest but I couldn't find anything. Whether he was or it wasn't, the way he tells it, as though he was doing the guy a favour and that he looked down on him for asking that, well...maybe there really was a bit of power-reclaiming there, even if it's not the way it actually happened (if it happened at all). The story about fighting a lesbian seemed uncomfortable to.

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Steve QJ's avatar

"maybe there's a certain level of racial entitlement involved too. Made me wonder whether declaring one's self gay or 'trans' has become the last safe bastion of the overprivileged white male to act like an entitled jerkwad and not be challenged on it (because the Trans Woman is more Sacred than Mary)."

Yeah, Dave essentially makes this same argument during the show. Personally, I don't like this way of looking things. Not least because I don't think many white people are choosing to transition so that they can stick it to black folks with impunity.

I had a long discussion with one of my readers about this idea of ranking oppression. That we need a discussion about whether white trans people are more privileged than black people, and yeah, I don't think that it's valuable.

I think some trans people (like some people in every "marginalised" group) have deeply absorbed a message of victimhood and entitlement. And they'll use that to their advantage whenever they can. Just a few weeks ago we saw a black man, Frederick Joesph, do it to a white woman. It's the mindset that's the problem, not the question of the skin colour or genitalia of the person who has it.

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Peaceful Dave's avatar

"It's the mindset that's the problem, not the question of the skin colour or genitalia of the person who has it." <-- This!

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