"Boiling the concept of pedophilia down to an age is dysfunctional"
"I'm the one who is so frustrated with the current cultural definition of a child is 18 or under"
And last but not least:
"If they are old enough at 10, aren’t they old enough then to consent to sex?"
Seems pretty unambiguous to me.
I'm not saying that Rogue is interested in having sex with children. As I said, I'd prefer not to think too deeply about that one way or the other. But I am saying that his rhetoric around the age of consent and sexual boundaries for children is poorly thought out at best and predatory at worst.
"I use to lead a group call the Samson Society in my church. It was a group that let men speak honestly about their sexual desires and activities without fear of being 'cancelled'"
Also, note that the group he mentions here is different to the group he mentions in the first reply that tried to help gay men not to act on their sexuality. He talks repeatedly about the importance of pedophiles being able to come forward and seek help. This is the one point where we're in complete agreement. I agree that stigmatising pedophilia to the point where pedophiles can't come forward and ask for help is a disaster for all concerned.
But as I said, if you take Rogue's view that the age of consent is "a placebo created by politicians and a mindwashed American citizenry" (seemingly ignoring that age of consent laws exist all over the world) why exactly would you seek help? Help for what? If the age of consent is meaningless, what exactly is wrong with having sex with a child? Especially if the child "wants to consent".
I think the age of consent is just one pillar in protecting children from abuse. But it's arguably the most important one, because it defines what a child *is*. So I have very little patience for people trying to muddy the waters with abstract philosophising about something that doesn't affect them at all (unless they're a pedophile), but could affect a child for the rest of their life. If you consider that virtue signalling or moral grandstanding, that's fine.
The only other possibility for all this intricate rationalization is that he was deeply attracted to one underage child and has built an edifice of BS around the denial of his lust. Otherwise, yeah, scan his phone and hard drive for pics of naked kids.
I had a friend in Norfolk, the guy I was with the night I had a certain breakthrough I don't talk about online, whose older brother just disappeared one day, sent away because, as I learned later, he had taken a child into the basement and had him? her? in a state of undress. He was of a recognizable type: unkempt, shirttail out, don't-care haircut, taped unfashionable glasses. I mention this because years later I saw a guy sitting on a curb near a playground looking fixedly at kids playing and occasionally "touching himself" and he had the exact same look.
My impression of Rogue and I hope I'm right is that he's too busy seeking justification to act out of desires just yet, what he wants is too dangerous to talk about publicly. Just on what you posted someone could send the cops to his house.
But don't forget: this isn't a temptation, it's an illness, and it's incurable. Some pedophiles beg to be castrated because they know they'll otherwise molest again, others are angrily defiant.
I ran into one guy on AOL ("DarknessXX") who wanted to rape and murder young boys and the murder scenarios were freaking gruesome. Recurving razor blades.
"Boiling the concept of pedophilia down to an age is dysfunctional"
"I'm the one who is so frustrated with the current cultural definition of a child is 18 or under"
And last but not least:
"If they are old enough at 10, aren’t they old enough then to consent to sex?"
Seems pretty unambiguous to me.
I'm not saying that Rogue is interested in having sex with children. As I said, I'd prefer not to think too deeply about that one way or the other. But I am saying that his rhetoric around the age of consent and sexual boundaries for children is poorly thought out at best and predatory at worst.
"I use to lead a group call the Samson Society in my church. It was a group that let men speak honestly about their sexual desires and activities without fear of being 'cancelled'"
Also, note that the group he mentions here is different to the group he mentions in the first reply that tried to help gay men not to act on their sexuality. He talks repeatedly about the importance of pedophiles being able to come forward and seek help. This is the one point where we're in complete agreement. I agree that stigmatising pedophilia to the point where pedophiles can't come forward and ask for help is a disaster for all concerned.
But as I said, if you take Rogue's view that the age of consent is "a placebo created by politicians and a mindwashed American citizenry" (seemingly ignoring that age of consent laws exist all over the world) why exactly would you seek help? Help for what? If the age of consent is meaningless, what exactly is wrong with having sex with a child? Especially if the child "wants to consent".
I think the age of consent is just one pillar in protecting children from abuse. But it's arguably the most important one, because it defines what a child *is*. So I have very little patience for people trying to muddy the waters with abstract philosophising about something that doesn't affect them at all (unless they're a pedophile), but could affect a child for the rest of their life. If you consider that virtue signalling or moral grandstanding, that's fine.
The only other possibility for all this intricate rationalization is that he was deeply attracted to one underage child and has built an edifice of BS around the denial of his lust. Otherwise, yeah, scan his phone and hard drive for pics of naked kids.
I had a friend in Norfolk, the guy I was with the night I had a certain breakthrough I don't talk about online, whose older brother just disappeared one day, sent away because, as I learned later, he had taken a child into the basement and had him? her? in a state of undress. He was of a recognizable type: unkempt, shirttail out, don't-care haircut, taped unfashionable glasses. I mention this because years later I saw a guy sitting on a curb near a playground looking fixedly at kids playing and occasionally "touching himself" and he had the exact same look.
My impression of Rogue and I hope I'm right is that he's too busy seeking justification to act out of desires just yet, what he wants is too dangerous to talk about publicly. Just on what you posted someone could send the cops to his house.
But don't forget: this isn't a temptation, it's an illness, and it's incurable. Some pedophiles beg to be castrated because they know they'll otherwise molest again, others are angrily defiant.
I ran into one guy on AOL ("DarknessXX") who wanted to rape and murder young boys and the murder scenarios were freaking gruesome. Recurving razor blades.