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Peaceful Dave's avatar

In spite of my other comment about race playing a role, I do believe that the things you mention also played a big role. Sadly, the "parties" are increasingly willing to display their contempt for the electorate with the choices we get. A megalomaniac vs a man in obvious cognitive decline. WTF!? We got rid of the offensive midnight tweeter and got a man who is a danger to all of humanity. He has made it clear that it purpose in Ukraine is regime change and the 101st is now there, ready to participate in active combat. I'll be amazed if Putin doesn't resort to nukes.

That is on top of the stupidity of voters. America is incredibly dumbed down. Flat earthers can vote! You only need to do a little Twitter reading of political comments to see that democracy is doomed to failure. A lottery might serve us better.

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Chris Fox's avatar

My father, a retired Navy Captain who became a Democrat as an answer to the Willie Horton ad, was one of your #3.

Yeah I don't want Biden to run again, were he only 25 years younger. I don't think his cognitive issues are all that serious yet but each passing year is going to take a worse toll on him. But I think Trump was a far greater danger to the country and world, I don't think he would have hesitated to get millions of Americans killed just to create another opportunity to boast about his magnificence. Every time I see him leading the applause to himself I am creeped out all over again.

If you really need to get depressed, watch that video of the GOP voters talking about how 1/6 was just freedom of speech, and BLM, and all that. I despair.

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Peaceful Dave's avatar

I'm not a doctor and if I was, I would not likely give a diagnosis on Biden's mental state on the internet. My grandfather lived with my mom while he had Alzheimer's until it was unmanageable. My mother lived with me for a time when she had Alzheimer's until we couldn't manage it. My non-authoritative opinion, based upon my experience with the tragedy of loved ones who are no longer cognitively competent is that Biden is unfit to be POTUS at this time.

25 years ago, he was Mr. Law & Order and too conservative to be in today's Democratic Party. We all change with age, I have, but my concerns about him are not just a matter of political view. We are in times too dangerous for him to be POTUS. My opinion of course.

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Chris Fox's avatar

I would not even dream of arguing with you. I had an uncle die of Alzheimers but the last time I spoke with him it had not begun yet. Then he asked his brother, my father, "are we related?"

But I have a special knack verging on paranormal for listening to and reading people and figuring how their minds work. And in my estimation Biden is not there yet. But he hasn't long.

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Peaceful Dave's avatar

I have always formed friendships with people who have common interests and politics has never been a factor. I don't forsake them when I fand that some of their views are in radical opposition to mine. They might not remain as close, but I maintain contract and communication even when it is depressing. As a result, I hear honest thoughts of people I know pertaining to other issues beyond the political or worldview, rather than some isolated thoughts they write on the internet. It keeps me out of echo chambers and gives me a lot to consider.

One of those things is that I get to see why they hold beliefs that I don't agree with and would consider them to be nutcases if I didn't know more about them. A common theme is that they live in an echo chamber where I am a turd in their punchbowl that they allow out of friendship.

I am not a mind reader, and I don't view members of racial, national or political tribes to be a monolith. My diverse group of friends reenforces that view strongly.

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Chris Fox's avatar

When it comes to Trump and MAGA, I have to respectfully disagree there. I don't want to hear from them at all.

The smartest Trump supporter I ever spoke with told me that he liked Trump because the world was afraid of America again.

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I should add that some of my MAGA friends are not just friends, they are kin. From a long line of Democrats, the party changed. They moved away from the city of their childhood, St. Louis, which became what Trump would properly call a shithole. In many ways what they see as a redeeming value of Trump falls under "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." The Democratic Party became what lower/middle class white people, even the ones with black children like in my family, now think of as their enemy as far as values go.

They know that the far right is not all that the left says that it is, but they believe that the far left is thanks to its own words. Things that you have mentioned about the right using. Call them racist, fascist, haters enough and Christan as they may be, they'd vote for Satan himself to vote against a Democrat. Along came Trump. They are the twins of the "vote blue no matter who" crowd.

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Peaceful Dave's avatar

Perhaps my military mindset.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” - Sun Tzu, The Art of War

and

“Keep your friends close; keep your enemies closer.” -unknown

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Chris Fox's avatar

We like Dave around here.

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Peaceful Dave's avatar

I've never wanted to be wrong about something as badly as I do about this.

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Chris Fox's avatar

Governments have refrained from using nuclear weapons because that has been a door nobody wanted to see opened. But using even low-yield tactical nukes would move that "window of propriety" toward their use and the chances for life on earth would be a lot more grim than they already are.

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Peaceful Dave's avatar

I could write something long and at risk of being classified, so I won't. I'll just say that all those low yield nukes exist because of the idea of proportional response.

Massive use of the big ones would result in a pyrrhic victory at best. Someday, someone is going to gamble that limited use will will not go there and response will be proportional and limited.

Very dangerous for the reason you gave. But when clowns are kings the palace becomes a circus. Disheartening indeed.

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Chris Fox's avatar

Ever read that short story by Norman Spinrad, "The Big Flash?"

Almost every time in my life other than a thunderstorm when I've seen a distant flash I have wondered if it's starting.

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Peaceful Dave's avatar

I haven't read it. I think that when that day comes, for most there will be no flash. They will wonder why there is no power on such a nice day.

https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

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Chris Fox's avatar

Yeah my father was a naval architect and confided in me about one project he worked on in the mid 60s, a sub repair whose cofferdam he designed, which I had to swear never to reveal. It had minor potential to kick off WWIII.

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