"I am uncomfortable speaking about segregation and the holocaust in the same breath."
Man, again, you were the one who did this. I just responded. And you only did it because you wanted to minimise the suffering black people experienced during segregation by comparing it to something totally unrelated. In all my years talking about race, I've never compared black people's experience to anything else. The oppression olympics is gross. So if it makes you uncomfortable, don't do it.
I'm not saying black people aren't happy. Or even that they weren't ever happy during segregation. I'm saying that you wouldn't have wanted to endure the regular mistreatment they did back then. Especially if you knew something about it. It's so goddamned infuriating and insulting to see you describe the treatment black people received during that time as "a few insults." But again, you do this because you seem absolutely determined to minimise racism. You take the truth about racism as an attack on America. It's not. No sane person is saying things haven't changed drastically for the better. I've not condemned Americans at any point. I've just told you truths about American history that you're bizarrely unwilling to acknowledge.
God! I see that you're making at least an attempt to apologise, thank you for that. But a) I do understand the situation, very likely better than you, b) it's impossible to have a conversation if you keep getting triggered by things I haven't said.
And c) I don't care that you called me a "pom." It's kind of funny to watch you try to push my buttons and fail. I don't need you to hand out compliments. I'm not insecure. My issue wasn't the petty insults (that's why I ignored them), it was, and still is, that you've been dishonest about how you've represented me and my comments to you. I love having conversations too. Obviously. But the foundation of any productive conversation is honesty. It's the foundation of respect too. I'm still waiting for you to be honest about the fact that you misrepresented my comments. If you can't do that, there's nothing more to discuss.
"I am uncomfortable speaking about segregation and the holocaust in the same breath."
Man, again, you were the one who did this. I just responded. And you only did it because you wanted to minimise the suffering black people experienced during segregation by comparing it to something totally unrelated. In all my years talking about race, I've never compared black people's experience to anything else. The oppression olympics is gross. So if it makes you uncomfortable, don't do it.
I'm not saying black people aren't happy. Or even that they weren't ever happy during segregation. I'm saying that you wouldn't have wanted to endure the regular mistreatment they did back then. Especially if you knew something about it. It's so goddamned infuriating and insulting to see you describe the treatment black people received during that time as "a few insults." But again, you do this because you seem absolutely determined to minimise racism. You take the truth about racism as an attack on America. It's not. No sane person is saying things haven't changed drastically for the better. I've not condemned Americans at any point. I've just told you truths about American history that you're bizarrely unwilling to acknowledge.
God! I see that you're making at least an attempt to apologise, thank you for that. But a) I do understand the situation, very likely better than you, b) it's impossible to have a conversation if you keep getting triggered by things I haven't said.
And c) I don't care that you called me a "pom." It's kind of funny to watch you try to push my buttons and fail. I don't need you to hand out compliments. I'm not insecure. My issue wasn't the petty insults (that's why I ignored them), it was, and still is, that you've been dishonest about how you've represented me and my comments to you. I love having conversations too. Obviously. But the foundation of any productive conversation is honesty. It's the foundation of respect too. I'm still waiting for you to be honest about the fact that you misrepresented my comments. If you can't do that, there's nothing more to discuss.