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Steve QJ's avatar

"I get why you don't like differentiating between people"

This is so crazy!! 😅 My whole point is that we *need* to differentiate between people more precisely. And that race does a horrible job of this. I must be doing a horrible job of explaining myself and I'm not sure why.

I'm saying that calling everybody with black skin or white skin or whatever skin a particular "race" is the failure to differentiate. It's like saying that everybody with blond or brown hair is the same race. No! They're not! It would be incredibly simplistic to claim this.

I have ancestry form Sierra Leone. If you lumped me in with all other Sierra Leoninans, I'd understand where you were coming from. It still wouldn't quite be accurate, but much more sensibly differentiated than simply saying, "oh, his skin is black, so we can just lump him in with every other human being on the entire continent of Africa and anywhere in the Caribbean and the Aboriginies in Australia."

Again, I have no issue with the notion of differences Of course there are differences. But "race" is far too blunt a concept to understand these differences.

Speaking of 23andMe, I just shared this link with Chris. Maybe it will do a better job of explaining than I have.😅

https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2017/science-genetics-reshaping-race-debate-21st-century/

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Grow Some Labia's avatar

Thanks for the article, good one. I've saved it for future reference. I understand why scientists think 'race' is just a social construct and it surely is; when I was a little kid we didn't even come from 'five' different races; it was down to three: Negroid, Caucasoid, and Mongoloid (that last was particularly contentious as mentally retarded people were sometimes called 'mongoloids' due to having slanted eyes similar to Asians).

So yes, we know all about how genetically diverse we are, but then how do you want to refer to the problems we have in America and elsewhere? Because 'black' and 'white' in America really mean more than just what you look like; they come with a lot of cultural baggage too, about slave legacy and responsibility, experiences, worries, concerns. My black friend a few years ago used to worry about taking out the garbage while black when some poor schmuck somewhere in America got shot by police for doing exactly that.

What language do *you* propose we use to distinguish between the surficial differences that are oh-so-important in identity-infested America?

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