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Steve QJ's avatar

"I wonder if there might be a way to gain a kind of common ground that would also allow them to save a little face"

Yeah, this is a really fair point. I'm not sure there *was* a lot of room to Allene to save face as she started off at such a ridiculous point (she also came in extremely hard in the private messages which is why we're a little confrontational straight away), but I could have gone a little gentler on her.

The fascinating thing about this article has been the way that simply stating the facts of the case put you on "the wrong side" in some people's eyes. Once they've established you as the bad guy, they're invested in disagreeing with you, even when you present them with incontrovertible facts.

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Dan Oblinger's avatar

indeed. in the present world stating facts is stating allegiance. somehow we need to pull back from this abyss.

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