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Gender transition is an experimental procedure. There are no longitudunal studies of either prolonged hormone use or surgery but several interviewees in the Walsh video claimed that there is a lot of suicide 7-10 years after transition, yet all we hear about is suicide among "trans" youth who were already having serious problems long before they ran into some online "trans" forum.

Academia is not allowed to perform such studies because if their research leads them to places the "trans" activists don't like they will be hounded out of their careers and receive late night death threats. A counselor who tells a disturbed girl that she isn't really "trans" is likely to lose his job.

The "trans" activists share a lot of attitudes with MAGA.

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You are 100% correct in all You "said," Sir Fox. (Although the MAGA crowd would disagree.) I never saw the Walsh video, so that was news about trans people having high rates of suicide. Just stands to reason, tho. AFAIK, a (probably large) percentage of these kids have co-morbidities.

In Sweden they studied the science on this stuff. Like the errant notion that trans kids have a higher rate of suicide. They found the existing science to be LOW or VERY LOW quality. The study that "proves" this about "You want a dead girl or a living trans son?" IIRC, it was only ONE study of 55 patients, and (if memory serves, and it may not) boys who had dysphoria from a very young age. One study. Small sample size. Not at *all,* representative of almost all the so-called trans youth today. Who are predominantly girls.

That's why Sweden decided that the ONLY "gender affirming care" that was allowed going forward was in controlled scientific studies. IOW, shut it down.

I'm sure You know most or all-a this, Chris. But some others may end up reading this that would be majorly surprised. I know I was.

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I put a link to the torrent for the video in my post; it is not on YouTube (guess why).

Until the fad GD was three times more prevalent in males, now it's overwhelmingly in females.

There is one surgeon in the video who is herself postoperative and she unhesitatingly dismisses any notion of post-surgical dissatisfaction or the idea that there is a fad element to it. Small wonder, it is probably making her rich, $70,000 a pop.

I have been more focused on the hyper-annoying people with their pronouns and their "nonbinary" horseshit, since the latter has no psychiatric basis at all. Dysphorics want to go from one pole to the other; NBs want to position themselves in between and never talk about anything else for the rest of their lives.

Now I realize just how wantonly destructive the activists are.

And of course the pharma and surgical communities are hovering helpfully nearby.

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jt's avatar

TY for Your reply, Sir Chris. Yeah, the prevalence *completely* flipped. Of course I dunno, but if they ever scientifically investigate (which seems unlikely at present), I wouldn't be surprised if there was some similarity between the GD and anorexics and them all.

Yeah about the surgeon. But, really? $70K a pop? If so, phew!

But even people who aren't making any money aren't gonna be able to express any notion of post-surgical dissatisfaction, right? Or few, if any. Who's gonna wanna admit they made *that* big a permanent mistake?

I did see an opinion piece (in WaPo of all places) where a black woman was saying there was a *significant* downside to they way they are medicalized for life. And some-a the side-effects she had to suffer from. Very revealing. But she never came right out and said it was a mistake. And You couldn't tell from the article how she felt about it, in the end.

I know it's not funny. But I chuckled at Your last three paragraphs. Because it's sad, but true.

And that last! Yeah, "helpfully nearby." I apologize if I already quoted this, but I "heard" each one was worth $1M a pop to the Big Pharms. TY again, Sir.

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One more note about this surgeon.

Walsh also brought up that other dysphoria where people want healthy limbs amputated because they feel mismatched with their bodies, just like young girls who want mastectomies.

She feigned to see no relationship between the two.

I would not have been able to stand it. No, I would not have struck her (never give as asshole a legitimate grievance) but I would have at that point sneered, "thanks for your time" and walked out.

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Yeah, I ran across that wanting to amputate healthy limbs. In a piece of fiction, no less. Still, found out they actually have a medical diagnosis in the DSM-5 on that. Dunno why that doesn't apply to these kids wanting to do that.

I dunno if You belong to Wesley Yang's "Year Zero" Substack. He interviewed a lady and posted it recently. She had a daughter who went ROGD, and talked about that unbelievably hard struggle it was to get her straightened out away from that. Girl fine, loving child now. With most, it doesn't turn out that way.

Point is, she's an anti-TRA. She's had youngsters call her up that got their genitalia mutilated who don't know who they *are* anymore. One wouldn't leave the house. Others are suicidal because they aren't really male or female either one, in some cases. And can't stand it.

What can one say??

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Chris Fox's avatar

I would say, "you should have waited and thought about it before letting some activist talk you into fucking yourself up for life."

These activists have a lot to answer for.

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