"I'd say the person you're debating and discussing with here is either a bot or a hate-filled radical. Either way, it's mostly a waste of time to try and have a discussion."
Definitely not a bot unless they've made huge progress in swearing and hyperbole algorithms. 😄 Let me know if you think it was a waste of time after part 2. You migh…
"I'd say the person you're debating and discussing with here is either a bot or a hate-filled radical. Either way, it's mostly a waste of time to try and have a discussion."
Definitely not a bot unless they've made huge progress in swearing and hyperbole algorithms. 😄 Let me know if you think it was a waste of time after part 2. You might still think so. That wouldn't be an unreasonable position. But I don't.
I forgot to add troll / bomb thrower to that list with bots and hate-filled radicals. In the political world, unless I'm dealing with a bipartisan person who can debate and reason, I get spewed with vitriol by the fringe left and right. The trans topic is fairly political, so it makes sense to me that you get spewed with your reasonable position. I do think your arguments are reasonable, but when I post a piece of yours on my Facebook page, one of my frenemies refers to you as conservative. Hopefully people are a hybrid of liberal and conservative, but I don't find you to be a conservative. Also, with a trans nephew, even from a young age he did not want to change clothes in the presence of others even before taking hormones as an adult. I don't know if trans folks in general would want to be in an open locker room changing clothes. Of course, a sexual predator would, though, to your point.
"In the political world, unless I'm dealing with a bipartisan person who can debate and reason, I get spewed with vitriol by the fringe left and right"
😅 Yep, I know that feeling. I definitely don't consider myself a conservative. Very far from it in fact. Politics has just become so extreme now that anybody who's even vaguely towards the middle is seen as "right-wing" by the fringe Left and a "leftist" by the fringe Right. And more and more people are getting pushed toward the fringes by social media and the 24 hour news cycle.
And yeah, this is the tragedy of discussions about trans people. If we could get rid of the predators and the people (read: men) who want to indulge their AGP at all costs, I think this would be a fairly easy problem to resolve. Indeed, it basically *was* resolved. Trans people have been around for a long time. But it's only in the past 5-10 years or so that there's been this all-out attack on the notion of womanhood.
Ironically, this is another issues where I get criticised by both sides because I'm not absolutist enough.
"I'd say the person you're debating and discussing with here is either a bot or a hate-filled radical. Either way, it's mostly a waste of time to try and have a discussion."
Definitely not a bot unless they've made huge progress in swearing and hyperbole algorithms. 😄 Let me know if you think it was a waste of time after part 2. You might still think so. That wouldn't be an unreasonable position. But I don't.
I forgot to add troll / bomb thrower to that list with bots and hate-filled radicals. In the political world, unless I'm dealing with a bipartisan person who can debate and reason, I get spewed with vitriol by the fringe left and right. The trans topic is fairly political, so it makes sense to me that you get spewed with your reasonable position. I do think your arguments are reasonable, but when I post a piece of yours on my Facebook page, one of my frenemies refers to you as conservative. Hopefully people are a hybrid of liberal and conservative, but I don't find you to be a conservative. Also, with a trans nephew, even from a young age he did not want to change clothes in the presence of others even before taking hormones as an adult. I don't know if trans folks in general would want to be in an open locker room changing clothes. Of course, a sexual predator would, though, to your point.
"In the political world, unless I'm dealing with a bipartisan person who can debate and reason, I get spewed with vitriol by the fringe left and right"
😅 Yep, I know that feeling. I definitely don't consider myself a conservative. Very far from it in fact. Politics has just become so extreme now that anybody who's even vaguely towards the middle is seen as "right-wing" by the fringe Left and a "leftist" by the fringe Right. And more and more people are getting pushed toward the fringes by social media and the 24 hour news cycle.
And yeah, this is the tragedy of discussions about trans people. If we could get rid of the predators and the people (read: men) who want to indulge their AGP at all costs, I think this would be a fairly easy problem to resolve. Indeed, it basically *was* resolved. Trans people have been around for a long time. But it's only in the past 5-10 years or so that there's been this all-out attack on the notion of womanhood.
Ironically, this is another issues where I get criticised by both sides because I'm not absolutist enough.