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Joe Duncan's avatar

4. What I think is this. None of what I've said here precludes the idea that extremist, overzealous, radical activists can be annoying, make false accusations, and be generally insufferable. I follow your stuff for a reason.

But that doesn't mean we should misrepresent the truth, the evidence, etc.

And while this is just a debate for us, it's a reality for millions of people, so I think it's important to keep them in mind and not misrepresent the situation.

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"But that doesn't mean we should misrepresent the truth, the evidence, etc."

I couldn't agree more. It's just that I honestly don't think I am misrepresenting the evidence. I'm trying, to the absolute best of my ability, to represent it accurately. And I don't think, at all, that the trans activist side of the debate is doing that. To their own detriment, as well as the detriment of women and sane trans people.

As I often point out, trans inclusion wasn't an issue until this idea that a man who says he's a woman is a woman. JK Rowling never said a word about it until the topic of selfID came up in Scotland, I'd been watching quietly without feeling the need to say a word. There were common sense safeguards against insincere men and clear, comprehensible language to talk about the issue with. Nobody risked their job by telling the truth.

So yes, I have enormous compassion for the people whose lives are being ruined by this "debate." I think maybe we disagree about who is responsible for most of the damage of the past few years. Again, I saw a great tweet on this point recently (https://twitter.com/TheBasedTS/status/1700992636084232382).

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