On May 22nd, 2020, during an episode of the Breakfast Club podcast, soon-to-be-president Joe Biden delivered a seventeen-minute and fifty-nine-second masterclass on the African American political experience.
I don't know if we can say for sure that Biden nominated a black woman for the Supreme Court. We're not biologists and she said only they know what a woman is ;-)
I am a white woman and I don't feel like anyone is working for my vote. Trump is the party of working class dude-bros, religious extremism in the wings looking to control women's bodies, and nationalistic protectionism. The Democrats are the party of woke, of guilty white liberals, of letting men who wear women's clothing into women's and girls' private spaces, of trying to defund the police, of letting illegal immigration and crime run wild, and of blaming white women exclusively for the election of Trump when 47% of us had nothing to do with it. Neither side does anything for me or cares what I think.
"I am a white woman and I don't feel like anyone is working for my vote"
100%. The only people who have anybody truly working for their vote is the super rich. In fact, the super rich don't make people work for their vote, they pay off politicians to get the favours they want. Then, it doesn't really matter who wins the election.
Politics is hopelessly disconnected from the needs and wishes of almost everybody. That's why they make people fight amongst themselves to keep hem from noticing this.
What can a President do that is specifically beneficial to people who are black? I didn't know if that could get thru the courts with the anti-discrimination laws that are on the books.
When the 235 Housing Program was initiated, people thought it was for black people. My mother, a single white woman qualified and got her first and only house under that program because she was poor and the program couldn't specify a race, only income level. There were plenty of low income single white women in the early 70s. I've read complaints that white women bag the benefits intended for black people, as if there is such a thing. There's the rub, is there even such a thing?
Some claim DEI does that, but I don't think it is that exclusive. Exclusive inclusiveness? Sure.
We have anti-discrimination laws and programs for people who are poor, but black people don't have a monopoly on that.
So I ask, what could Joe Biden or Kamala Harris have done specifically for black people to earn the "black vote"? For that matter, what can Trump do to specifically harm black people and not sink everyday white or brown people with them? Was Barack Obama able to do anything to improve the lives of black people?
Maybe, just maybe, the black people who voted for Trump were tired of the bullshit pandering and being treated like chumps. But I can't speak for them.
"What can a President do that is specifically beneficial to people who are black? I didn't know if that could get thru the courts with the anti-discrimination laws that are on the books."
This isn't actually as tricky as it might seem. There are, for example, several things that could be done around criminal justice reform that would disproportionately help black people. There are still very few checks and balances in the legal system to guard against discrimination and appeals processes are terrible. There are also many things you could do around poor neighbourhoods and disadvantaged schools that would disproportionately help black people.
The point though, as I often point out, is that these policies would help ALL poor people and ALL people caught up in the legal system. They would make America a safer, fairer place in general. But politicians, especially Democratic politicians, don't seem to understand that you can run on a platform that aims to benefit everybody, and make it clear as you do that you'll help the disadvantaged the most.
The simplest way to frame this is that you target your policies at the working class and the poor. These people are the majority in every society, and are disproportionately people of colour. If a political party was able to do this effectively, and had the integrity to follow through, they'd never lose an election ever again.
I agree with that completely. I was thinking about the complaint that I, and probably you have seen complaining that “white women” being beneficiaries of programs that they think of as being for black people. I’m certain that you would have no objection to my mom getting a 235 home. I’d also guess that more black people got them.
It goes to the idea that programs that are about financial need without regard to race can disproportionally benefit black people and that should be OK if they are disproportionally poor.
The criminal injustice system definitely needs to be fixed. Could the same principle apply? Do black people disproportionately have to rely upon a public defender? I’m not saying that there are no good public defenders, but do they have a case load that gives them less time with the defendant or encourage them to take a plea?
The courts have a problem that I don’t know how politicians can fix. The jury is made up of humans. Years ago, I heard a woman say, “N*****s all look alike to me” but she could give eyewitness testimony in court. “That’s him! He’s the one.” https://innocenceproject.org/dna-exonerations-in-the-united-states/
I don't know if we can say for sure that Biden nominated a black woman for the Supreme Court. We're not biologists and she said only they know what a woman is ;-)
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I am a white woman and I don't feel like anyone is working for my vote. Trump is the party of working class dude-bros, religious extremism in the wings looking to control women's bodies, and nationalistic protectionism. The Democrats are the party of woke, of guilty white liberals, of letting men who wear women's clothing into women's and girls' private spaces, of trying to defund the police, of letting illegal immigration and crime run wild, and of blaming white women exclusively for the election of Trump when 47% of us had nothing to do with it. Neither side does anything for me or cares what I think.
"I am a white woman and I don't feel like anyone is working for my vote"
100%. The only people who have anybody truly working for their vote is the super rich. In fact, the super rich don't make people work for their vote, they pay off politicians to get the favours they want. Then, it doesn't really matter who wins the election.
Politics is hopelessly disconnected from the needs and wishes of almost everybody. That's why they make people fight amongst themselves to keep hem from noticing this.
The "trans" shit embraced by the Democrats is simply unacceptable. I suspect coming out against mutilating kids would have saved them the election.
What can a President do that is specifically beneficial to people who are black? I didn't know if that could get thru the courts with the anti-discrimination laws that are on the books.
When the 235 Housing Program was initiated, people thought it was for black people. My mother, a single white woman qualified and got her first and only house under that program because she was poor and the program couldn't specify a race, only income level. There were plenty of low income single white women in the early 70s. I've read complaints that white women bag the benefits intended for black people, as if there is such a thing. There's the rub, is there even such a thing?
Some claim DEI does that, but I don't think it is that exclusive. Exclusive inclusiveness? Sure.
We have anti-discrimination laws and programs for people who are poor, but black people don't have a monopoly on that.
So I ask, what could Joe Biden or Kamala Harris have done specifically for black people to earn the "black vote"? For that matter, what can Trump do to specifically harm black people and not sink everyday white or brown people with them? Was Barack Obama able to do anything to improve the lives of black people?
Maybe, just maybe, the black people who voted for Trump were tired of the bullshit pandering and being treated like chumps. But I can't speak for them.
"What can a President do that is specifically beneficial to people who are black? I didn't know if that could get thru the courts with the anti-discrimination laws that are on the books."
This isn't actually as tricky as it might seem. There are, for example, several things that could be done around criminal justice reform that would disproportionately help black people. There are still very few checks and balances in the legal system to guard against discrimination and appeals processes are terrible. There are also many things you could do around poor neighbourhoods and disadvantaged schools that would disproportionately help black people.
The point though, as I often point out, is that these policies would help ALL poor people and ALL people caught up in the legal system. They would make America a safer, fairer place in general. But politicians, especially Democratic politicians, don't seem to understand that you can run on a platform that aims to benefit everybody, and make it clear as you do that you'll help the disadvantaged the most.
The simplest way to frame this is that you target your policies at the working class and the poor. These people are the majority in every society, and are disproportionately people of colour. If a political party was able to do this effectively, and had the integrity to follow through, they'd never lose an election ever again.
I agree with that completely. I was thinking about the complaint that I, and probably you have seen complaining that “white women” being beneficiaries of programs that they think of as being for black people. I’m certain that you would have no objection to my mom getting a 235 home. I’d also guess that more black people got them.
It goes to the idea that programs that are about financial need without regard to race can disproportionally benefit black people and that should be OK if they are disproportionally poor.
The criminal injustice system definitely needs to be fixed. Could the same principle apply? Do black people disproportionately have to rely upon a public defender? I’m not saying that there are no good public defenders, but do they have a case load that gives them less time with the defendant or encourage them to take a plea?
The courts have a problem that I don’t know how politicians can fix. The jury is made up of humans. Years ago, I heard a woman say, “N*****s all look alike to me” but she could give eyewitness testimony in court. “That’s him! He’s the one.” https://innocenceproject.org/dna-exonerations-in-the-united-states/