They do seem to put an enormous amount of energy in trying to change society to conform to them, and I can't imagine it requires equivalent or more energy to just be who they are. I think the genuinely GD are as fairly uncommon as they always were, and a lot of people are faking themselves out and not addressing the real reasons why they…
They do seem to put an enormous amount of energy in trying to change society to conform to them, and I can't imagine it requires equivalent or more energy to just be who they are. I think the genuinely GD are as fairly uncommon as they always were, and a lot of people are faking themselves out and not addressing the real reasons why they're unhappy.
Sometimes I think these people are reinventing the boomer wheel on gender-bending, as they called it back in the day. They're putting an awful lot of energy into issues that were debated generations ago, in huge denial to a sexually dimorphic world in which our bodies are designed for reproduction. It doesn't mean we must slavishly follow that, but there's no reason to believe that if you're unhappy as your birth sex, you'll be any happier as the other - and many clearly aren't, and some studies indicate the suicide risk *increases*. I wonder, how many are committing suicide because they're living inauthentically, and that's what I think most of these people are doing, whether they realize it or not?
I like what you said about how you're okay with people identifying you as male or black and it's like 'whatever'. If they make ugly assumptions about you based on your biological characteristics, that's on them, not you, and just ignore or stay away from those people. I feel the same way as a person universally perceived as a woman and white - two labels I don't reject because clearly they're true. When I run into asshole men with a bug up their ass about women, I ignore them or give them a wide berth - same as if I run into whitey-haters - whether they're black or Regressive Left white.
While younger feminists piss and moan about how 'exhausting' it is to live with 'patriarchy' (I challenged them a lot on Medium) I wonder whether they don't have anything better to do with their lives than invent microaggressions and then suffer from them. I have probably been subjected to about as much patriarchy, misogyny, and 'microaggressions' as any other woman today but I could probably only name a handful out of my nearly 60 years on this planet. Mostly because they were memorable or stuck in my craw in some way (probably because I let them get away with some shit, LOL). But by and large I don't remember this stuff, because I've got more important things to do and think about, and probably many I haven't even noticed.
This was an interesting conversation but it highlights once again how self-absorbed these people are, and how privileged, thinking they suffer mightily over pronouns when their brethren (non-bineren? :) ) in other countries are getting lynched or defenestrated. The gender identity movement is where *everyone* is highly privileged, no matter who they are, who they *think* they are, or what they look like.
Your point about why they spend so much effort trying to get the rest of society to conform to them is just spot-on, Steve!
It's such an easy shot to complain about being victimized by patriarchal attitudes. There's no measure for them, so those who love to feel oppressed can claim indefinitely that nothing is getting any better.
This shit gets old.
When early feminism was about tangibles like wage equality, and wages converged a little, people could point to progress and my guess is that the rage dropped a little because suddenly we weren't hearing about wages anymore. Did lecture fees drop, maybe?
Complaining about oppression when there is no way to show it's lessening is a gift that keeps on giving.
They do seem to put an enormous amount of energy in trying to change society to conform to them, and I can't imagine it requires equivalent or more energy to just be who they are. I think the genuinely GD are as fairly uncommon as they always were, and a lot of people are faking themselves out and not addressing the real reasons why they're unhappy.
Sometimes I think these people are reinventing the boomer wheel on gender-bending, as they called it back in the day. They're putting an awful lot of energy into issues that were debated generations ago, in huge denial to a sexually dimorphic world in which our bodies are designed for reproduction. It doesn't mean we must slavishly follow that, but there's no reason to believe that if you're unhappy as your birth sex, you'll be any happier as the other - and many clearly aren't, and some studies indicate the suicide risk *increases*. I wonder, how many are committing suicide because they're living inauthentically, and that's what I think most of these people are doing, whether they realize it or not?
I like what you said about how you're okay with people identifying you as male or black and it's like 'whatever'. If they make ugly assumptions about you based on your biological characteristics, that's on them, not you, and just ignore or stay away from those people. I feel the same way as a person universally perceived as a woman and white - two labels I don't reject because clearly they're true. When I run into asshole men with a bug up their ass about women, I ignore them or give them a wide berth - same as if I run into whitey-haters - whether they're black or Regressive Left white.
While younger feminists piss and moan about how 'exhausting' it is to live with 'patriarchy' (I challenged them a lot on Medium) I wonder whether they don't have anything better to do with their lives than invent microaggressions and then suffer from them. I have probably been subjected to about as much patriarchy, misogyny, and 'microaggressions' as any other woman today but I could probably only name a handful out of my nearly 60 years on this planet. Mostly because they were memorable or stuck in my craw in some way (probably because I let them get away with some shit, LOL). But by and large I don't remember this stuff, because I've got more important things to do and think about, and probably many I haven't even noticed.
This was an interesting conversation but it highlights once again how self-absorbed these people are, and how privileged, thinking they suffer mightily over pronouns when their brethren (non-bineren? :) ) in other countries are getting lynched or defenestrated. The gender identity movement is where *everyone* is highly privileged, no matter who they are, who they *think* they are, or what they look like.
Your point about why they spend so much effort trying to get the rest of society to conform to them is just spot-on, Steve!
It's such an easy shot to complain about being victimized by patriarchal attitudes. There's no measure for them, so those who love to feel oppressed can claim indefinitely that nothing is getting any better.
This shit gets old.
When early feminism was about tangibles like wage equality, and wages converged a little, people could point to progress and my guess is that the rage dropped a little because suddenly we weren't hearing about wages anymore. Did lecture fees drop, maybe?
Complaining about oppression when there is no way to show it's lessening is a gift that keeps on giving.