I cam out and spent my first years as a gay man in Norfolk, VA, a Navy town. The bars had a lot of short-haired guys and the clientele burgeoned when the fleet was in. I had sex with a few Marines and every one of them was a bottom, not what anyone would expect. Kinda scary topping a guy who could kill you if he suddenly got mad.
I cam out and spent my first years as a gay man in Norfolk, VA, a Navy town. The bars had a lot of short-haired guys and the clientele burgeoned when the fleet was in. I had sex with a few Marines and every one of them was a bottom, not what anyone would expect. Kinda scary topping a guy who could kill you if he suddenly got mad.
Sorry for the TMI but we are exploding stereotypes here. A lot. Anyway.
Yeah sex changes things, sex ruins things. If I had a friend who suddenly wanted me to f him it wasn't the same anymore. It introduces tension. With my regulars we never did anything more social uh afterward than grab some coffee.
I had to Google "TMI." Our personal experiences influence our stereotypes, but that doesn't make them universally true or false. It can be informative pertaining to where our views come from.
In the spirit of that, when I was 15 (too young to drive) I liked to shoot pool. My neighborhood pool room had no snooker tables and I liked to play on them to stay sharp. There was a big pool room where a world championship had once taken place at Grand & Olive that had them. That was also a red-light district and there was a gay bar there.
I hitch-hiked and quickly got picked up leaving. Often by gay men who would offer me money for sex at some point before we got where I said I was going (never before I got into the car). Which take-away would be appropriate? They were pedos trying to turn an adolescent boy into a homosexual prostitute or did they think that I was a prostitute looking to get picked up? Is there any sweeping generalized stereotype justified by that? I don't write that to counter anything that you wrote. In a gay bar you will find gay men. Do they represent a larger group that they are a member of? I don't think you were saying that. We all have our life experiences.
Was that aimed at me from a previous unpleasant exchange we had or adding something you find valuable to this story? I don't know, but you should know that I've got no hard feelings. Not a double entendre ;0)
We're cool. I offer the same apology for anything inadvertent from me. We'd probably like each other at a table with a pitcher of beer and a bowl of chips. The internet often leads to misunderstanding.
Patient communication leads to understanding and there is precious little of that on the Internet. Steve brings a contagious reflection and thoughtfulness to this little forum.
Were there only more of that n the social media. Even Medium is a cesspool now; any deviation from the trans orthodoxy brings on horrible attacks, at least as bad as those from the right. I find this symmetry most troubling.
I cam out and spent my first years as a gay man in Norfolk, VA, a Navy town. The bars had a lot of short-haired guys and the clientele burgeoned when the fleet was in. I had sex with a few Marines and every one of them was a bottom, not what anyone would expect. Kinda scary topping a guy who could kill you if he suddenly got mad.
Sorry for the TMI but we are exploding stereotypes here. A lot. Anyway.
Yeah sex changes things, sex ruins things. If I had a friend who suddenly wanted me to f him it wasn't the same anymore. It introduces tension. With my regulars we never did anything more social uh afterward than grab some coffee.
I had to Google "TMI." Our personal experiences influence our stereotypes, but that doesn't make them universally true or false. It can be informative pertaining to where our views come from.
In the spirit of that, when I was 15 (too young to drive) I liked to shoot pool. My neighborhood pool room had no snooker tables and I liked to play on them to stay sharp. There was a big pool room where a world championship had once taken place at Grand & Olive that had them. That was also a red-light district and there was a gay bar there.
I hitch-hiked and quickly got picked up leaving. Often by gay men who would offer me money for sex at some point before we got where I said I was going (never before I got into the car). Which take-away would be appropriate? They were pedos trying to turn an adolescent boy into a homosexual prostitute or did they think that I was a prostitute looking to get picked up? Is there any sweeping generalized stereotype justified by that? I don't write that to counter anything that you wrote. In a gay bar you will find gay men. Do they represent a larger group that they are a member of? I don't think you were saying that. We all have our life experiences.
Was that aimed at me from a previous unpleasant exchange we had or adding something you find valuable to this story? I don't know, but you should know that I've got no hard feelings. Not a double entendre ;0)
First of all there was no implied message in there, in fact I have no idea what you're talking about. I apologize for anything inadvertent.
Some gay men are attracted to guys a lot younger than them. I came out at 20 and it wasn't for over a decade that my attractions began to age.
The idea that anyone not gay can be turned gay is something very few have ever believed.
We're cool. I offer the same apology for anything inadvertent from me. We'd probably like each other at a table with a pitcher of beer and a bowl of chips. The internet often leads to misunderstanding.
Patient communication leads to understanding and there is precious little of that on the Internet. Steve brings a contagious reflection and thoughtfulness to this little forum.
Were there only more of that n the social media. Even Medium is a cesspool now; any deviation from the trans orthodoxy brings on horrible attacks, at least as bad as those from the right. I find this symmetry most troubling.