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Chris Fox's avatar

I think it’s abundantly clear that they are taking all of Gaza, presumably to be resettled, but several spokesmen have said that all Palestinians must leave.

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Passion guided by reason's avatar

Could you provide a link? In my research of the many, many points from both sides, I have never come across a spokesman for Israel who advocated for Israel even to 'eventually' take over and settle "all of Gaza" after forcing all Palestinians to leave, much less that they are doing so in present tense, but if you can provide some solid evidence that might shift my perspective. I'm astounded that I've never seen even the harsh critics of Israel document such a point, but you may be more familiar with the objective sources so I'm open to one or more links supporting your opinion.

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Chris Fox's avatar

One was talking about each Arab nation taking 20-50,000. On my morning news feed.

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Passion guided by reason's avatar

OK, so your morning newsfeed included an Israeli spokesman who said that all Palestinians must leave Gaza, and further that the (2-2.5million) residents there should be divided into groups of 20-50K going to each Arab nation?

I'd really appreciate a link to that, so we can cooperatively verify the objective factuality of it. I assume you know where you get your morning newsfeed from, and the time and day you heard that.

But you have said that "several spokesmen" for Israel have stated that all Gazans must leave, so you could provide links to some of the other spokemen's words instead if that's easier.

I'm wondering about their exact words, and their credentials to speak on behalf of the Israeli government.

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Chris Fox's avatar

You aren't calling me a liar so I am not responding as though defending against such a charge.

However these statements came from reputable news sources, not nutcases on social media. And while Israel routinely suppresses news even after publication, I'm sure these are still extant.

Respectfully, however, I am not going to seek out links. You could do the same with exactly the same amount of effort, and since I already read them, it's you who needs to.

Not that there is any reason to doubt. Expansionism is Israel's 𝑟𝑎𝑖𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑑'𝑒̂𝑡𝑟𝑒, which is why they are filling the West Bank with "settlements" to make sure Palestinians never again have their own state.

First, they said to evacuate northern Gaza, now they are leveling the south as well, and, yes, they are saying everyone needs to leave, and, no,. they will not leave it empty.

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Chris Fox's avatar

I never credit news from dubious sources and that even includes, in this instance, the Gray Lady. I typically read the Washington Post and Associated Press as I sip my morning coffee. In this affair the NYT has too pronounced a pro-Israel slant and I don't take them seriously there.

I do recommend Al Jazeera. Their avoidance of bias is impressive and they are much more textual than pictorial. But they'tr occasional reading for me, something I should change.

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