Israel is nothing if not expansionist. The settler movement runs the government and ownership of land is fundamental to personal identity and authenticity in their religion.
As I have said, they plan to expand into indisputable sovereign nations and I doubt the USA will do anything about it, but will continue to send them weapons to kill …
Israel is nothing if not expansionist. The settler movement runs the government and ownership of land is fundamental to personal identity and authenticity in their religion.
As I have said, they plan to expand into indisputable sovereign nations and I doubt the USA will do anything about it, but will continue to send them weapons to kill Syrian and Lebanese. Those countries' defense will be labeled "terrorists" and "gunmen."
As for "antisemitism" and "terrorists" and "Hamas," (HamsterAss, jesus christ), if a kid carries the mutilated corpse of his mother out of the remains of their house, he is not going to grow up pro-Israel. He comes from an honor-driven society and his life will be dedicated to revenge.
I think the problem is 90% Israel and I have pre-48 evidence to support. It is a rogue nation.
Chris, could you name the specific "indisputably sovereign nations" which you believe Israel is intending to expand into? Jordan? Egypt? Lebanon? Syria? Or jump over to Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia? I can think of none that fit your description.
There certainly IS a very troubling settler movement in the West Bank territory, but I don't think it's objective reality to assert that the West Bank is an indisputably sovereign nation.
... as Israel, based on some claims from thousands of years ago. And that's just Likud.
Others like Shas and Jewish Home argue for "unlimited" settlement expansion, as in respecting no borders.
I say that any further diplomatic relations with "the state of Israel" should be contingent on removing all settlers from the West Bank; since their original countries don't want them back, they would need to move into Israel, where they would cause NO END of trouble.
which would appear to be contrary to your assertions, but perhaps the current charter is much more aggressively expansionistic in the ways that you assert. I'll read any links to a Likud charter you can provide.
While discussion often includes opinions (expert or not), let's start by being clear about the underlying and verifiable objective facts, like the contents of the Likud charter. So let's look together at what the Likud charter you have based your assertions above upon actually says. While I was never any fan of Likud, I have not seen any assertion matching yours, and if validated that could shift my views on the situation. So show us the Likud charter you are referencing.
Israel is nothing if not expansionist. The settler movement runs the government and ownership of land is fundamental to personal identity and authenticity in their religion.
As I have said, they plan to expand into indisputable sovereign nations and I doubt the USA will do anything about it, but will continue to send them weapons to kill Syrian and Lebanese. Those countries' defense will be labeled "terrorists" and "gunmen."
As for "antisemitism" and "terrorists" and "Hamas," (HamsterAss, jesus christ), if a kid carries the mutilated corpse of his mother out of the remains of their house, he is not going to grow up pro-Israel. He comes from an honor-driven society and his life will be dedicated to revenge.
I think the problem is 90% Israel and I have pre-48 evidence to support. It is a rogue nation.
Chris, could you name the specific "indisputably sovereign nations" which you believe Israel is intending to expand into? Jordan? Egypt? Lebanon? Syria? Or jump over to Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia? I can think of none that fit your description.
There certainly IS a very troubling settler movement in the West Bank territory, but I don't think it's objective reality to assert that the West Bank is an indisputably sovereign nation.
The Likud charter claims
* all of Lebanon
* all of Syria
* a third of Iraq
* a third of Iran (good luck with that one)
... as Israel, based on some claims from thousands of years ago. And that's just Likud.
Others like Shas and Jewish Home argue for "unlimited" settlement expansion, as in respecting no borders.
I say that any further diplomatic relations with "the state of Israel" should be contingent on removing all settlers from the West Bank; since their original countries don't want them back, they would need to move into Israel, where they would cause NO END of trouble.
Which serves them right.
Chris, could you provide some links to support your assertions regarding what land Likud claims?
I can find things like their original platform:
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/original-party-platform-of-the-likud-party
which would appear to be contrary to your assertions, but perhaps the current charter is much more aggressively expansionistic in the ways that you assert. I'll read any links to a Likud charter you can provide.
While discussion often includes opinions (expert or not), let's start by being clear about the underlying and verifiable objective facts, like the contents of the Likud charter. So let's look together at what the Likud charter you have based your assertions above upon actually says. While I was never any fan of Likud, I have not seen any assertion matching yours, and if validated that could shift my views on the situation. So show us the Likud charter you are referencing.