I think pronouns ARE needed when it's not clear. In fact, I just pulled out an old Medium article & have been reworking it for LinkedIn; it's a very real observation that the people who need to use them the most, don't. That the ones who are clearly male or female use them, but the ones who are questionable are pronoun-less.
I think pronouns ARE needed when it's not clear. In fact, I just pulled out an old Medium article & have been reworking it for LinkedIn; it's a very real observation that the people who need to use them the most, don't. That the ones who are clearly male or female use them, but the ones who are questionable are pronoun-less.
Doctors are less cowed by trans than excited about the new permanent, lifelong patients they'll have, assuming they don't kill themselves first because someone pointed out women don't have dicks. I think the lawyers will cure the doctors, eventually. Esp when malpractice insurance skyrockets for any medical professional treating 'transgenderism'.
" That the ones who are clearly male or female use them, but the ones who are questionable are pronoun-less."
Ummm, who are you talking about? A short-haired girl who shared a womb with a male fraternal twin? A long-haired boy with feminine features? I am missing something here. I've probably met fewer than a dozen people in my life whose biological gender was not immediately obvious, one of whom walked past a construction site and got wolf-whistles then took off his shirt and walked past in the other direction. Hilarity, I have no doubt, ensued.
But I reject the entire "nonbinary" thing piecemeal, the claim of intermediate gender, as 100.00% attention-seeking and I offer as evidence that they never shut up about it. Those who would stand outside the polarity of gender altogether I would not consider falling under that word, But I categorically reject gender as a continuum. And if the context is psychology there are as many genders as people.
I'm talking about any one who doesn't 'look' either male or female; at the current moment, we're mostly dressing & looking the way a particular gender is 'expected' to look and I'm not convinced it's all socialization. I don't run into too many non-obvious myself, in person, but I might if I worked in an office still & had to go downtown every day. I've seen more non-binaries, or just genderfluids on the street, and while it was obvious to me which gender they were born, I don't necessarily know what pronouns they might prefer. In my article, which I published yesterday on LinkedIn, I referenced two women, one on LinkedIn, one in a Linkedin training video, who looked like mens (I'd say pretty intentionally) and with female names. And no pronouns. They really need to put them up there. While the video gal didn't need to state her preference in her video, I looked up her LI profile and sure enough, no pronouns.
A friend who'd read my article commented that the pronoun-less might be trying to create intentional discomfort, which is possible, but in my world, I just want drama-free interactions. The genderfluid, like transactivists, seem to think fear and discomfort will make us like and accept them better, or something.
Except we are talking about third-person pronouns, as always, which we don't use when talking to the people in question. So the whole pronoun thing strikes me as much attention-starved ado about nothing.
I want drama-free interactions too. That's why I would go out of my way to have no interactions with the NB. Because "my gender identity" this and "my gender identity" that would get old after two or three million times.
I think pronouns ARE needed when it's not clear. In fact, I just pulled out an old Medium article & have been reworking it for LinkedIn; it's a very real observation that the people who need to use them the most, don't. That the ones who are clearly male or female use them, but the ones who are questionable are pronoun-less.
Doctors are less cowed by trans than excited about the new permanent, lifelong patients they'll have, assuming they don't kill themselves first because someone pointed out women don't have dicks. I think the lawyers will cure the doctors, eventually. Esp when malpractice insurance skyrockets for any medical professional treating 'transgenderism'.
" That the ones who are clearly male or female use them, but the ones who are questionable are pronoun-less."
Ummm, who are you talking about? A short-haired girl who shared a womb with a male fraternal twin? A long-haired boy with feminine features? I am missing something here. I've probably met fewer than a dozen people in my life whose biological gender was not immediately obvious, one of whom walked past a construction site and got wolf-whistles then took off his shirt and walked past in the other direction. Hilarity, I have no doubt, ensued.
But I reject the entire "nonbinary" thing piecemeal, the claim of intermediate gender, as 100.00% attention-seeking and I offer as evidence that they never shut up about it. Those who would stand outside the polarity of gender altogether I would not consider falling under that word, But I categorically reject gender as a continuum. And if the context is psychology there are as many genders as people.
I'm talking about any one who doesn't 'look' either male or female; at the current moment, we're mostly dressing & looking the way a particular gender is 'expected' to look and I'm not convinced it's all socialization. I don't run into too many non-obvious myself, in person, but I might if I worked in an office still & had to go downtown every day. I've seen more non-binaries, or just genderfluids on the street, and while it was obvious to me which gender they were born, I don't necessarily know what pronouns they might prefer. In my article, which I published yesterday on LinkedIn, I referenced two women, one on LinkedIn, one in a Linkedin training video, who looked like mens (I'd say pretty intentionally) and with female names. And no pronouns. They really need to put them up there. While the video gal didn't need to state her preference in her video, I looked up her LI profile and sure enough, no pronouns.
A friend who'd read my article commented that the pronoun-less might be trying to create intentional discomfort, which is possible, but in my world, I just want drama-free interactions. The genderfluid, like transactivists, seem to think fear and discomfort will make us like and accept them better, or something.
Except we are talking about third-person pronouns, as always, which we don't use when talking to the people in question. So the whole pronoun thing strikes me as much attention-starved ado about nothing.
I want drama-free interactions too. That's why I would go out of my way to have no interactions with the NB. Because "my gender identity" this and "my gender identity" that would get old after two or three million times.