Jan 13th, 2024. India Willoughby, a reality TV-grade celebrity and trans woman, writes a (now deleted) tweet about kidnapping three women: Scottish MP Joanna Cherry, "gender critical" activist Maya Forstater, and JK Rowling.
Thank you again Steve QJ, this is exactly right. Eliminate gender stereotypes and let individuals live their lives as they wish. Women should be able to choose their careers, and desires, and fashion, and hobbies, and loves, as they wish. And so should men. And if we agree on this, there is no more need for made up constructs like gender independent of biological sex. Transwomen will then just be men who wish to change their sexual organs, or don feminine fashion. Transmen simiarly will just be women doing similar. Problem solved and no need to contort society with false metaphysics.
And there is no need, formal, legal, nor colloquial, for the fantasy of “gender identity.” There is male and there is female, there is no switching between them, nor is there any continuum, what the illiterate call spectrum, between them.
Let language disconnected from reality be limited to fantasy writers and priests.
And the newspapers would be firebombed. Steve would have to live with a security squad.
The rage and vehemence around this ideology is astonishing, as it must be because it would collapse under the tiniest smidgeon of honest debate.
That a conception as clearly at odds with evident reality and millennia of undisputed understanding shows just how fragile our grasp on truth has become.
The rage and vehemence has almost nothing to do with trans, or sexuality, or rights, or whatever. This is a proxy for Power, full stop. Its pure ideological Leftism. That's it. Once cognitive liberty is co-opted, it's game over.
It wouldn’t be fair or realistic to expect someone with such a clear objective viewpoint to be working for the Guardian or the New York Times; what a cruel fate to wish on any one 😆 You can, however, get this level of journalism still in the Spectator or Telegraph. Not too sure what the US equivalent would be.
Thank you. This forester, pickup driving, sports loving 76 year old grandmother who still uses her chainsaw can only roll her eyes at the “progressive” youngsters who insist sex stereotypes that we demolished in the 70’s must now define you. Not only that, but you must amputate healthy body parts and live a life dependent on drugs.
Words that used to have meaning and power are collapsing. Being called a “racist” or a “transphobe” or a “hater” have lost their power to silence those with the “wrong” thoughts. The tide is beginning to turn. Reality will win out. There is no other option. It’s just going to take awhile since the ask to be “kind” and “inclusive” seemed reasonable until the dark side of those requests became apparent.
but you must amputate healthy body parts and live a life dependent on drugs." this is the saddest part. And I see it happening in young people all around me.
If you are a trans woman there are a few things that you need to understand. First of all is that you are still a man because you can't change your biological sex. It's okay to dress any way you wish and to adopt any superficial, stereotypical attributes of women that you desire. Live your life. No one should care, I certainly don't. However, because women are entitled to be treated fairly and to enjoy privacy from men there are certain things that are prohibited to you and me because we are men. You can't compete against women in most sports because it would be unfair. You can't go into women's private places like restrooms and locker rooms because that would make them feel unsafe. Finally, if you are a criminal you certainly can't be imprisoned with women.
And visaversa. I don't want a girl in my locker room/bathroom, regardless of what she identifies as. If she's a 'menstruating person', she can get a tampon in the girls room. I also don't want to compete against females. I don't see a lot of this angle on things in the 'trans debate'. Sometimes for obv reasons, ofc....but I wonder
Jonathan Willoughby was familiar when I was on Twitter and an utterly vile person. He was unrelentingly absurd.
Every appearance by a TransTok figure was an exercise in intelligence-insulting ideology, blasting self-righteous rage at a world that doesn’t fold to their every absurdity. Why these people are not more hated is a mystery for the ages.
I left in 2010 and while I’d known many transsexual men, dated several, the “transgender” garbage was just getting started. Where others might see social progress I see a cult of fakes, pampered brats who didn’t hear “no” enough growing up.
Candidly, I despise them.
The “nonbinary” are the worst. At least “trans” has a distant cousin in transsexuals; NB is pure fabrication and most evidently a tactic for getting an extra ration of special attention.
Look at me, look at me, I’m “trans.” Use my latest pronouns or I’ll get you fired.
Never hire one. Don’t let them on planes. Don’t give them store service.
Trans-women wish to be thought of and accepted as women. Part of fulfilling that desire is "trans-rights." Do women have no right to privacy and not share a locker/shower room with someone displaying a penis? Do women have no Title IX rights to compete in sports against other women? Do women in prison have a right to not share space with convicted rapists who call themselves women? Do lesbian women have a right to not want to have sex with a "woman" with a penis? Trans-rights must destroy women's rights to achieve the goal of being thought of in every way as a woman. Zeus help us on the day that women lose all rights to satisfy that goal.
Steve, they're men. Trans-identified men. Or M2F if you want to be polite. Ceding the word "woman" to them is what got us into this mess in the first place.
The worst was Anthony (“Erin”) Reed, a procurer of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones for children in states that forbid them to minors. As much damage as he’s caused, he deserves a medieval answer to a regicide.
He is almost a creation; every photo from the same angle, wearing the same expression and same sidelong glance. He makes my skin crawl.
Facebook now has a few, or maybe it’s one energetic advocate posting endlessly about the outrage of JK Rowling and Elon Musk saying men shouldn’t be punching women in the face in Olympic boxing. These are presented with the assumption this is is th purest bigotry.
"transwomen" -- compound word like "crayfish" which ain't. The adjective-noun pair more or less concedes -- as many transactivists argue -- that transwomen actually are women. Like "black women" or "Chinese women".
Transwomen won't ever qualify as women, as "adult human females", since they lack, and won't ever have, the more or less essential and defining quality of that category -- i.e., ovaries.
Y'all may wish to peruse even more reputable popular dictionaries which underline the point:
When I hear crayfish, I know that is not a fish (also know they are darn tasty). When I hear Black Woman or Chinese Woman, i know that is a woman of a particular ethnic background. When I hear transwoman, I know that is a male that takes on the trappings of appearing to be a man, and vice versa for transman (female that wants to take on the appearance of being a man). I agree that using the word transwoman could be viewed as a concession. However it can be looked at as a descriptor of a particular person: a male that takes on the trappings of appearing to be a man. This would be useful if adhered to by everyone, TRAs not trying to force concessions and some segment of the population just being arseholes. And for the handful of things where it is beneficial for separate spaces to exist, this approach would allow that. Spaces for each category.
👍🙂 Though this looks like a typo you might want to correct:
Jeff: "When I hear transwoman, I know that is a male that takes on the trappings of appearing to be a man [woman] ..."
But many transwomen get their knickers in a twist over the word "transwomen" since that more or less denies their claim to being actual women -- a further good reason to use that compound word. See the "Usage Notes" here:
Hi, what Mforti said below. The only thing I will add is that we are ALL persons first, no matter what "box" we choose to live in [Thank you, Ms. Barron.] I hope I live long enough to see all humans agree and accept each other as we are. I do my best at accepting others as the persons they are every day.
I really started questioning the Democrats because of their love affair with the trans community. The greatest love affair ever. Biden may not have loved women, I remember his conduct in the Thomas Hearings, but he loved the Trans Women. Please never let this happen again.
“Trans women are not women, they’re trans women”. No, trans women are men, and always will be. The word woman shouldn’t be associated with these men at all. If people want to be ‘kind’, as so many people wish, to these men larping as women I suggest using the term trans identified males (TIMs). Otherwise, I enjoyed reading this article.
“But let's face it. The only reason anybody was attacking Rowling for the kind of comments Willoughby has been making for years is that we're all perfectly aware of which one is the woman.”
Thank you again Steve QJ, this is exactly right. Eliminate gender stereotypes and let individuals live their lives as they wish. Women should be able to choose their careers, and desires, and fashion, and hobbies, and loves, as they wish. And so should men. And if we agree on this, there is no more need for made up constructs like gender independent of biological sex. Transwomen will then just be men who wish to change their sexual organs, or don feminine fashion. Transmen simiarly will just be women doing similar. Problem solved and no need to contort society with false metaphysics.
And there is no need, formal, legal, nor colloquial, for the fantasy of “gender identity.” There is male and there is female, there is no switching between them, nor is there any continuum, what the illiterate call spectrum, between them.
Let language disconnected from reality be limited to fantasy writers and priests.
There are no "trans"women or "trans"men because there is no such thing as "trans."
A mentally ill man in a skirt or a mentally ill woman on testosterone have not change sex because nobody does.
But, Trans Women are not women. I can accept them as anything but not as the NEW WOMAN. That has to go, everything else is fine.
Steve, in a fair universe, you would have a weekly column in the New York Times (or the Guardian) and everyone would follow you.
And the newspapers would be firebombed. Steve would have to live with a security squad.
The rage and vehemence around this ideology is astonishing, as it must be because it would collapse under the tiniest smidgeon of honest debate.
That a conception as clearly at odds with evident reality and millennia of undisputed understanding shows just how fragile our grasp on truth has become.
The rage and vehemence has almost nothing to do with trans, or sexuality, or rights, or whatever. This is a proxy for Power, full stop. Its pure ideological Leftism. That's it. Once cognitive liberty is co-opted, it's game over.
So true! So true!
It wouldn’t be fair or realistic to expect someone with such a clear objective viewpoint to be working for the Guardian or the New York Times; what a cruel fate to wish on any one 😆 You can, however, get this level of journalism still in the Spectator or Telegraph. Not too sure what the US equivalent would be.
I'll check her out. Haven't heard of Pamela Paul
Thank you. This forester, pickup driving, sports loving 76 year old grandmother who still uses her chainsaw can only roll her eyes at the “progressive” youngsters who insist sex stereotypes that we demolished in the 70’s must now define you. Not only that, but you must amputate healthy body parts and live a life dependent on drugs.
Words that used to have meaning and power are collapsing. Being called a “racist” or a “transphobe” or a “hater” have lost their power to silence those with the “wrong” thoughts. The tide is beginning to turn. Reality will win out. There is no other option. It’s just going to take awhile since the ask to be “kind” and “inclusive” seemed reasonable until the dark side of those requests became apparent.
but you must amputate healthy body parts and live a life dependent on drugs." this is the saddest part. And I see it happening in young people all around me.
If you are a trans woman there are a few things that you need to understand. First of all is that you are still a man because you can't change your biological sex. It's okay to dress any way you wish and to adopt any superficial, stereotypical attributes of women that you desire. Live your life. No one should care, I certainly don't. However, because women are entitled to be treated fairly and to enjoy privacy from men there are certain things that are prohibited to you and me because we are men. You can't compete against women in most sports because it would be unfair. You can't go into women's private places like restrooms and locker rooms because that would make them feel unsafe. Finally, if you are a criminal you certainly can't be imprisoned with women.
That's it, just like me.
And visaversa. I don't want a girl in my locker room/bathroom, regardless of what she identifies as. If she's a 'menstruating person', she can get a tampon in the girls room. I also don't want to compete against females. I don't see a lot of this angle on things in the 'trans debate'. Sometimes for obv reasons, ofc....but I wonder
Amen. Amen. Amen. Love your writing! Try sending some of it over to the US Supreme Court so Ms. Jackson can be helped to figure out what a woman is….
Jonathan Willoughby was familiar when I was on Twitter and an utterly vile person. He was unrelentingly absurd.
Every appearance by a TransTok figure was an exercise in intelligence-insulting ideology, blasting self-righteous rage at a world that doesn’t fold to their every absurdity. Why these people are not more hated is a mystery for the ages.
I left in 2010 and while I’d known many transsexual men, dated several, the “transgender” garbage was just getting started. Where others might see social progress I see a cult of fakes, pampered brats who didn’t hear “no” enough growing up.
Candidly, I despise them.
The “nonbinary” are the worst. At least “trans” has a distant cousin in transsexuals; NB is pure fabrication and most evidently a tactic for getting an extra ration of special attention.
Look at me, look at me, I’m “trans.” Use my latest pronouns or I’ll get you fired.
Never hire one. Don’t let them on planes. Don’t give them store service.
Drag queens are disgusting.
These men mock women, wear womanface and make fun of what they think are the worst stereotypes, and they think they're heroes for doing so.
It's repulsive.
Trans-women wish to be thought of and accepted as women. Part of fulfilling that desire is "trans-rights." Do women have no right to privacy and not share a locker/shower room with someone displaying a penis? Do women have no Title IX rights to compete in sports against other women? Do women in prison have a right to not share space with convicted rapists who call themselves women? Do lesbian women have a right to not want to have sex with a "woman" with a penis? Trans-rights must destroy women's rights to achieve the goal of being thought of in every way as a woman. Zeus help us on the day that women lose all rights to satisfy that goal.
Steve, they're men. Trans-identified men. Or M2F if you want to be polite. Ceding the word "woman" to them is what got us into this mess in the first place.
Correct.
There is no such thing as "trans"women because there's no such thing as "trans."
They're just men. The word woman should not be used for them in any way, with any prefix because there's one type of woman. And they're not it.
Thank you.
The worst was Anthony (“Erin”) Reed, a procurer of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones for children in states that forbid them to minors. As much damage as he’s caused, he deserves a medieval answer to a regicide.
He is almost a creation; every photo from the same angle, wearing the same expression and same sidelong glance. He makes my skin crawl.
Facebook now has a few, or maybe it’s one energetic advocate posting endlessly about the outrage of JK Rowling and Elon Musk saying men shouldn’t be punching women in the face in Olympic boxing. These are presented with the assumption this is is th purest bigotry.
"transwomen" -- compound word like "crayfish" which ain't. The adjective-noun pair more or less concedes -- as many transactivists argue -- that transwomen actually are women. Like "black women" or "Chinese women".
Transwomen won't ever qualify as women, as "adult human females", since they lack, and won't ever have, the more or less essential and defining quality of that category -- i.e., ovaries.
Y'all may wish to peruse even more reputable popular dictionaries which underline the point:
https://web.archive.org/web/20181020204521/https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/female
When I hear crayfish, I know that is not a fish (also know they are darn tasty). When I hear Black Woman or Chinese Woman, i know that is a woman of a particular ethnic background. When I hear transwoman, I know that is a male that takes on the trappings of appearing to be a man, and vice versa for transman (female that wants to take on the appearance of being a man). I agree that using the word transwoman could be viewed as a concession. However it can be looked at as a descriptor of a particular person: a male that takes on the trappings of appearing to be a man. This would be useful if adhered to by everyone, TRAs not trying to force concessions and some segment of the population just being arseholes. And for the handful of things where it is beneficial for separate spaces to exist, this approach would allow that. Spaces for each category.
👍🙂 Though this looks like a typo you might want to correct:
Jeff: "When I hear transwoman, I know that is a male that takes on the trappings of appearing to be a man [woman] ..."
But many transwomen get their knickers in a twist over the word "transwomen" since that more or less denies their claim to being actual women -- a further good reason to use that compound word. See the "Usage Notes" here:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/trans_woman
I just watched the Daily Wire's new documentary video, "Identity Crisis." It shows surgery. OMG!
Hi, what Mforti said below. The only thing I will add is that we are ALL persons first, no matter what "box" we choose to live in [Thank you, Ms. Barron.] I hope I live long enough to see all humans agree and accept each other as we are. I do my best at accepting others as the persons they are every day.
I really started questioning the Democrats because of their love affair with the trans community. The greatest love affair ever. Biden may not have loved women, I remember his conduct in the Thomas Hearings, but he loved the Trans Women. Please never let this happen again.
“Trans women are not women, they’re trans women”. No, trans women are men, and always will be. The word woman shouldn’t be associated with these men at all. If people want to be ‘kind’, as so many people wish, to these men larping as women I suggest using the term trans identified males (TIMs). Otherwise, I enjoyed reading this article.
“But let's face it. The only reason anybody was attacking Rowling for the kind of comments Willoughby has been making for years is that we're all perfectly aware of which one is the woman.”
🔥🔥🔥