"But transmen rarely are. Transwomen, of the Moira kind, are the sources of most of all the sturm und drang."
Haha, yep, I often chuckle to myslef in conversations with trans people as I notice this. Trans men are almost invariably more reasonable, and absoluetly invariably less toxic than trans women. Whatever could explain that...
"But transmen rarely are. Transwomen, of the Moira kind, are the sources of most of all the sturm und drang."
Haha, yep, I often chuckle to myslef in conversations with trans people as I notice this. Trans men are almost invariably more reasonable, and absoluetly invariably less toxic than trans women. Whatever could explain that...
Moira sounds mind-bogglingly entitled. I'd never imagined that trans women would try to pull the misogyny card against trans men. I could barely believe what I was reading. 😅
I've never done the whole "trans women are women" thing. As you say, they're not. It's brainwashing. I can respect trans people without lying or erasing another whole class of people. I dabbled with "cis" for a while, but pretty much stopped using that too.
I heard from so many women who disliked it and thought, "I'm making so much effort to be respectful in how I refer to trans people, why wouldn't I make at least the same effort to be respectful about how I refer to women?"
Yeah, that's the guy who banned me too. Although when I sent an angry email to support a few months ago complaining that they wouldn't stop sending me one of their newsletters even though I'd unsubscribed from everything, I heard from my former debate nemesis Elle Beau. When I responded back I was polite (but angry with Medium) and added "Ha ha Elle, do ya miss me???" She quite professionally ignored that, and handled my issue with full professionalism.
There is one woman on there (Asian, Tara someone-or-other) who is not a madwoman and writes reasonably. Not many others. Most of them write with unrepressed rage, firing at everyone.
Some of them are just astonishingly nasty, as confrontational and belligerent as anyone I have ever seen online, and I've on since Compuserve.
When I got back on (Morgoth & the Silmarrils) I started by seeking out "they/them" and then "trans" and blocking every one, not to be tempted into jumping in anymore since the curators have swallowed the rod and reel along with the hook line and sinker. I told "Roger" to perform an anatomically unlikely act and addressed him by his pronouns since they were clearly intended to be equivalent to his name.
She is the one of the few trans woman I have read on medium who writes reasonable, thoughtful articles related to trans issues. For most others, it is all a bunch of name-calling, shaming and victim hood with click-bait titles and directed towards the radical, e.g., why would I want to read something titled "The TERFs are Scared of the Truth" ? Clearly, folks who are trying to understand and be supportive of the trans community are not the intended audience :-)
I have noticed this as well. I can't think of any cases of an article, tweet, or personal interaction with a trans man that has been toxic. All my (admittedly limited) interactions with trans men have been rational/reasonable. As you said, I wonder what could explain that ;-)
Also interesting is that I don't recall hearing the question 'What is a man' in the context of discussions about trans issues, and rarely is the 'What is a woman' question asked by a woman. It seems that the most hostile anti-trans commentary has been from men and directed at trans women.
As Nicole's comment alludes to, there seems to be very little discussion, or concern, about trans men competing in men's sports. I think that says volumes about why there is concern about the fairness of trans women competing against women, and the need to preserve some woman-only spaces.
"But transmen rarely are. Transwomen, of the Moira kind, are the sources of most of all the sturm und drang."
Haha, yep, I often chuckle to myslef in conversations with trans people as I notice this. Trans men are almost invariably more reasonable, and absoluetly invariably less toxic than trans women. Whatever could explain that...
Moira sounds mind-bogglingly entitled. I'd never imagined that trans women would try to pull the misogyny card against trans men. I could barely believe what I was reading. 😅
I've never done the whole "trans women are women" thing. As you say, they're not. It's brainwashing. I can respect trans people without lying or erasing another whole class of people. I dabbled with "cis" for a while, but pretty much stopped using that too.
I heard from so many women who disliked it and thought, "I'm making so much effort to be respectful in how I refer to trans people, why wouldn't I make at least the same effort to be respectful about how I refer to women?"
"I've never done the whole "trans women are women" thing. As you say, they're not. "
I got banned from Medium for those exact words. The email was signed
Roger (he/him)
Yeah, that's the guy who banned me too. Although when I sent an angry email to support a few months ago complaining that they wouldn't stop sending me one of their newsletters even though I'd unsubscribed from everything, I heard from my former debate nemesis Elle Beau. When I responded back I was polite (but angry with Medium) and added "Ha ha Elle, do ya miss me???" She quite professionally ignored that, and handled my issue with full professionalism.
There is one woman on there (Asian, Tara someone-or-other) who is not a madwoman and writes reasonably. Not many others. Most of them write with unrepressed rage, firing at everyone.
Some of them are just astonishingly nasty, as confrontational and belligerent as anyone I have ever seen online, and I've on since Compuserve.
When I got back on (Morgoth & the Silmarrils) I started by seeking out "they/them" and then "trans" and blocking every one, not to be tempted into jumping in anymore since the curators have swallowed the rod and reel along with the hook line and sinker. I told "Roger" to perform an anatomically unlikely act and addressed him by his pronouns since they were clearly intended to be equivalent to his name.
I think I left Tara unblocked.
I think you may be referring to TaraElla https://medium.com/@taraella
She is the one of the few trans woman I have read on medium who writes reasonable, thoughtful articles related to trans issues. For most others, it is all a bunch of name-calling, shaming and victim hood with click-bait titles and directed towards the radical, e.g., why would I want to read something titled "The TERFs are Scared of the Truth" ? Clearly, folks who are trying to understand and be supportive of the trans community are not the intended audience :-)
Yeah, I like TaraElla. When we disagreed on something we both remained civil and polite. She's actually trying to help, rather than spit venom.
I have noticed this as well. I can't think of any cases of an article, tweet, or personal interaction with a trans man that has been toxic. All my (admittedly limited) interactions with trans men have been rational/reasonable. As you said, I wonder what could explain that ;-)
Also interesting is that I don't recall hearing the question 'What is a man' in the context of discussions about trans issues, and rarely is the 'What is a woman' question asked by a woman. It seems that the most hostile anti-trans commentary has been from men and directed at trans women.
As Nicole's comment alludes to, there seems to be very little discussion, or concern, about trans men competing in men's sports. I think that says volumes about why there is concern about the fairness of trans women competing against women, and the need to preserve some woman-only spaces.