"can you imagine how tiresome these people must be in person? Do you think it's possible to change the subject?"
OMG, I noticed even in the '90s when running into a trans person became the very occasional thing, how self-obsessed they were. They weren't arrogant and aggressive the way they are today, but boy oh boy could they not shut up…
"can you imagine how tiresome these people must be in person? Do you think it's possible to change the subject?"
OMG, I noticed even in the '90s when running into a trans person became the very occasional thing, how self-obsessed they were. They weren't arrogant and aggressive the way they are today, but boy oh boy could they not shut up about transtioning and trans stuff. There is *nothing* I want to talk about all the time and on the basis of the two or three I knew, I just stayed away from transfolk just because they were so one-track-minded.
When I was still living in CT we had a transwoman join our Pagan group. She was a perfectly lovely person and I liked her but I avoided talking about trans stuff with her, and fortunately she only rarely brought it up, if there was a point to it (I remember she once told a hilarious story about being hassled by a couple of young misogynist guys, so she stepped out of her car, all six feet of her, used her man voice and...hilarity ensued :) ) One day, feeling comfortable enough with her, I asked her about it, and confessed that I'd never wanted to talk with her about it before because of my previous experiences and she kind of rolled her eyes...she knew what I was talking about.
Those early ones were the folks who truly were GD. Many of them today didn't always feel like that regardless of what they say - they're encouraged to tell a certain narrative the way the born-again Christian community doesn't like boring sin stories from new converts - they're subtly encouraged to embellish and exaggerate. An ex-fundy told a discussion forum I was on about it many years ago - this is why you find so many ex-Satanists, Pagans and atheists in the born-again set. Recruitment posts and videos on social media can take the normal pathologies and insecurities of young people and convince them the real problem is GD rather than just being young and trying to figure things out.
One of the very few times I met someone at the gym and went home with him and had sex, the guy was gay and not at all trans-anything. He could communicate, we met several more times, then disappeared.
Years later I ran into him again and went to visit him. He had become a transvestite, wearing bright-colored feminine clothes, and looked , well, pretty weird. We talked for a while but every few minutes he would interject, apropos of nothing,
"my friends like it when I dress up"
Huh? Yeah I'm sure they do.
It was creepy and strange, it didn't matter what we were talking about, somewhere in the back of his mind he was constantly thinking about his impersonations. I left and never contacted him again.
And his eyes looked really weird, myopic, like he was in a different world.
"can you imagine how tiresome these people must be in person? Do you think it's possible to change the subject?"
OMG, I noticed even in the '90s when running into a trans person became the very occasional thing, how self-obsessed they were. They weren't arrogant and aggressive the way they are today, but boy oh boy could they not shut up about transtioning and trans stuff. There is *nothing* I want to talk about all the time and on the basis of the two or three I knew, I just stayed away from transfolk just because they were so one-track-minded.
When I was still living in CT we had a transwoman join our Pagan group. She was a perfectly lovely person and I liked her but I avoided talking about trans stuff with her, and fortunately she only rarely brought it up, if there was a point to it (I remember she once told a hilarious story about being hassled by a couple of young misogynist guys, so she stepped out of her car, all six feet of her, used her man voice and...hilarity ensued :) ) One day, feeling comfortable enough with her, I asked her about it, and confessed that I'd never wanted to talk with her about it before because of my previous experiences and she kind of rolled her eyes...she knew what I was talking about.
Those early ones were the folks who truly were GD. Many of them today didn't always feel like that regardless of what they say - they're encouraged to tell a certain narrative the way the born-again Christian community doesn't like boring sin stories from new converts - they're subtly encouraged to embellish and exaggerate. An ex-fundy told a discussion forum I was on about it many years ago - this is why you find so many ex-Satanists, Pagans and atheists in the born-again set. Recruitment posts and videos on social media can take the normal pathologies and insecurities of young people and convince them the real problem is GD rather than just being young and trying to figure things out.
One of the very few times I met someone at the gym and went home with him and had sex, the guy was gay and not at all trans-anything. He could communicate, we met several more times, then disappeared.
Years later I ran into him again and went to visit him. He had become a transvestite, wearing bright-colored feminine clothes, and looked , well, pretty weird. We talked for a while but every few minutes he would interject, apropos of nothing,
"my friends like it when I dress up"
Huh? Yeah I'm sure they do.
It was creepy and strange, it didn't matter what we were talking about, somewhere in the back of his mind he was constantly thinking about his impersonations. I left and never contacted him again.
And his eyes looked really weird, myopic, like he was in a different world.