There's the rub. Trump is an asshole, but sometimes assholes are good leaders.
You know a tree by its fruit. Setting political rhetoric aside, what is the fruit of Trump's career and Presidency. What is the fruit of Harris's career and activity in the Senate and as a VP? That's hard to evaluate because of political bias.
There's the rub. Trump is an asshole, but sometimes assholes are good leaders.
You know a tree by its fruit. Setting political rhetoric aside, what is the fruit of Trump's career and Presidency. What is the fruit of Harris's career and activity in the Senate and as a VP? That's hard to evaluate because of political bias.
That partly depends upon priorities. Nuclear war? Abortion? Trans? Suicide and attempted suicide rate. Blatant censorship and disinformation, including disinformation claims of the other sides disinformation? The list of things that people prioritize is long.
I'm the past I made spreadsheets to compare the candidates. What did they "do" if they held office? Who endorces them? What do they claim and do they walk the walk. I weighted the results according to my priorities. I suspect the most people come closer to being single issue voters, including the issue of "I don't like him/her."
An honest (will never happen) score board without weighting (voters supply their own) would be helpful. But that really isn't possible in this day and age. You have fringe propaganda and disinformation from the most dangerous source (government). Always a blend of truth and lies. It's hard to be optimistic.
Understood. What went right or wrong under a certain President is not entirely their doing. That makes it difficult to make broad claims and we end up with, not as bad as Biden equipping the Taliban military. Not starting new wars. Attempting diplomacy with N Korea and Russia where the situation is dangerous at the moment, notice how it ends up a comparison. But the results are complex.
Sooner or later, someone is going to call America's bluff. Our arrogant, we can always nuke you ignores MAD and America's extreme vulnerability. We are closer to that now, but how much credit and blame goes to Trump or Biden alone?
I understand that you are not going to drop the Trump is worse thing and I'm certainly not trying to change your mind or disagree.
At this point if it was possible to compare the results and world situation at the end of a Trump and Harris Presidency with some sort of dual reality, I wouldn't be willing to bet my life savings on who gets the best result. Since I want what is best for my country and the world, I hope that whoever wins surprises the naysayers and does a good job and obtains the most beneficial result, even if it is in spite of themself, Not being a disaster might be the best we can hope for.
In the end, I will never cast a deciding vote or know that my opinion is best, so my thoughts are just conversation.
There's the rub. Trump is an asshole, but sometimes assholes are good leaders.
You know a tree by its fruit. Setting political rhetoric aside, what is the fruit of Trump's career and Presidency. What is the fruit of Harris's career and activity in the Senate and as a VP? That's hard to evaluate because of political bias.
That partly depends upon priorities. Nuclear war? Abortion? Trans? Suicide and attempted suicide rate. Blatant censorship and disinformation, including disinformation claims of the other sides disinformation? The list of things that people prioritize is long.
I'm the past I made spreadsheets to compare the candidates. What did they "do" if they held office? Who endorces them? What do they claim and do they walk the walk. I weighted the results according to my priorities. I suspect the most people come closer to being single issue voters, including the issue of "I don't like him/her."
An honest (will never happen) score board without weighting (voters supply their own) would be helpful. But that really isn't possible in this day and age. You have fringe propaganda and disinformation from the most dangerous source (government). Always a blend of truth and lies. It's hard to be optimistic.
"There's the rub. Trump is an asshole, but sometimes assholes are good leaders."
Almost everybody who has worked with Trump says he's a terrible leader and a terrible person.
It's easy to find "insiders" with negative things to say about politicians/former bosses.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/09/06/harris-veep-boss-management/
Yes, but it’s rarer to struggle to find *anybody* except sycophants on the order or Rudi Guliani who has anything good to say about you.
Also, it would surprise me not at all to learn Kamala Harris was a horrible person to work with. I was addressing your point about Trump.
Understood. What went right or wrong under a certain President is not entirely their doing. That makes it difficult to make broad claims and we end up with, not as bad as Biden equipping the Taliban military. Not starting new wars. Attempting diplomacy with N Korea and Russia where the situation is dangerous at the moment, notice how it ends up a comparison. But the results are complex.
Sooner or later, someone is going to call America's bluff. Our arrogant, we can always nuke you ignores MAD and America's extreme vulnerability. We are closer to that now, but how much credit and blame goes to Trump or Biden alone?
I understand that you are not going to drop the Trump is worse thing and I'm certainly not trying to change your mind or disagree.
At this point if it was possible to compare the results and world situation at the end of a Trump and Harris Presidency with some sort of dual reality, I wouldn't be willing to bet my life savings on who gets the best result. Since I want what is best for my country and the world, I hope that whoever wins surprises the naysayers and does a good job and obtains the most beneficial result, even if it is in spite of themself, Not being a disaster might be the best we can hope for.
In the end, I will never cast a deciding vote or know that my opinion is best, so my thoughts are just conversation.