Affirmative Action causes white students with mid-range grades not to be accepted, and it especially hurts Asian students, but it hurts a lot of black students in another way. Black students with low grades - who wouldn't otherwise be admittable to top universities - are being recruited by Ivy League schools *because* they're black, so t…
Affirmative Action causes white students with mid-range grades not to be accepted, and it especially hurts Asian students, but it hurts a lot of black students in another way. Black students with low grades - who wouldn't otherwise be admittable to top universities - are being recruited by Ivy League schools *because* they're black, so that these universities can claim to be fulfilling their DIE (diversity, inclusion and equity) requirements. But when students with low grades get thrown into competitive environments at Ivy League colleges, it turns out they are not prepared to work at the level of their peers, so they tend to get discouraged and drop out altogether and thus never complete their degree.
It turns out that black students with low grades have a higher success rate if they go to community college, because community college has all kinds of remedial programs and support for students who are a little behind, to help them get caught up (whichy Ivy Leagues schools very much don't). So black students who enter college with low grades have a higher rate of graduation if they go, not to Ivy League colleges, but to their local community college first, and transfer to a four-year college later after completing a general AA at community college.
Retrospectively, I don't see why anyone would do the first two years at an expensive university, freshman and sophomore are so generic.
I had already placed second in the state science fair and been sent to the international in chemistry (I met Glenn Seaborg there) so I was a whiz but I lost interest in chemistry after a while, those two years at Purdue were mainly a chance to do a lot of LSD.
As for remedial, I needed that in math really badly, and ended up getting my degree in math beecause I was so sick of not knowing it well enough. Story of my life: don't run away from problems, run toward them.
Affirmative Action causes white students with mid-range grades not to be accepted, and it especially hurts Asian students, but it hurts a lot of black students in another way. Black students with low grades - who wouldn't otherwise be admittable to top universities - are being recruited by Ivy League schools *because* they're black, so that these universities can claim to be fulfilling their DIE (diversity, inclusion and equity) requirements. But when students with low grades get thrown into competitive environments at Ivy League colleges, it turns out they are not prepared to work at the level of their peers, so they tend to get discouraged and drop out altogether and thus never complete their degree.
It turns out that black students with low grades have a higher success rate if they go to community college, because community college has all kinds of remedial programs and support for students who are a little behind, to help them get caught up (whichy Ivy Leagues schools very much don't). So black students who enter college with low grades have a higher rate of graduation if they go, not to Ivy League colleges, but to their local community college first, and transfer to a four-year college later after completing a general AA at community college.
Retrospectively, I don't see why anyone would do the first two years at an expensive university, freshman and sophomore are so generic.
I had already placed second in the state science fair and been sent to the international in chemistry (I met Glenn Seaborg there) so I was a whiz but I lost interest in chemistry after a while, those two years at Purdue were mainly a chance to do a lot of LSD.
As for remedial, I needed that in math really badly, and ended up getting my degree in math beecause I was so sick of not knowing it well enough. Story of my life: don't run away from problems, run toward them.
My daughters went to community college for the first two years before going to ASU. $$$.
Citation: https://www.amazon.com/Mismatch-Affirmative-Students-%C2%92s-Universities/dp/0465029965