SUZ: I certainly agree that skin color has nothing to do with it, but it is a class issue that upper and middle class blacks should be more forthright in discussing. Their refusal to criticize the disfunction in lower class black communities is not helpful.
The things you describe are not endemic for black people. It is certain low socio economic poorly educated people. Skin color is not the issue
SUZ: I certainly agree that skin color has nothing to do with it, but it is a class issue that upper and middle class blacks should be more forthright in discussing. Their refusal to criticize the disfunction in lower class black communities is not helpful.