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Hi Steve,

Fair enough, although I think our views diverge in a few places, which is natural. Everyone is wrong and everyone is justified to one or another degree. War is a mess, and having a war where the leadership decided to abscond to another country to avoid the worst of it is another unusual circumstance on top of that. re: mutual exposure as a tonic for prejudice - yes, this has been my personal experience as well. Many friends of all sorts before I discovered how society chose to "racialize" me. However, I don't think it's quite accurate to say that both Israel and Palestine lack this - some 15-20% of arabic muslims living and working in Israel pre Oct 7th. In leadership roles in parliament, etc. As you know, trying to find the reciprocal situation in Palestine, Egypt, Syria, etc. I mean there are more jews in Kenya than Syria right now. Don't want to play the fact check game as we're both freely writing, but I think that's significant.

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"As you know, trying to find the reciprocal situation in Palestine, Egypt, Syria, etc"

Yep, this is true. Partly because no Jew, or sane person in general, would choose to live in Gaza if they had other options. But also, yes, because choosing to live in Gaza as a Jew would be largely insane.

The settlers who live in the West Bank do so because they know the IDF have their backs and yet they still live in completely isolated communities where they don't see Palestinians unless they're fighting them or using them to build their houses.

From what I know of Israel, Arabs and Jews don't really mix that much. So while it's true that there's a higher proportion of Arabs in Israel than there are Jews in Gaza, I'm not sure how much it helps re: fighting prejudice/indictrination. Even if there were peace tomorrow, that's going to be a slow, painful process. Just as it has been in America.

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