Got something that says that suffrage was ONLY white landowners? In local elections?
Remember, direct voting for anything else was party conventions and call kinds of complicate things. Women, for instance, voted in plenty of places before the Amendment, just as many had abortions before Roe Vs. Wade. Milestone universal dates are about a…
Got something that says that suffrage was ONLY white landowners? In local elections?
Remember, direct voting for anything else was party conventions and call kinds of complicate things. Women, for instance, voted in plenty of places before the Amendment, just as many had abortions before Roe Vs. Wade. Milestone universal dates are about as useful as acting like the Magna Carta had real significance to Welsh coal miners. Chains and slavery are NOT the same things. But read something real about Jamestown. White laborers could be killed for trying to escape, for one thing.
Ah, what a surprise you’re eager to “reject it out of hand” because of an opinion you dislike instead of addressing the facts. Maybe American history isn’t your thing😉
Anyway, I’m sure there’s something equally trivially unacceptable with all of these sources that all say the same thing…
Such a surprise that you know more about American voting than you do, since managing campaigns in all kinds of areas from urban to rural is my JOB. But go ahead, enlighten on how it's just my OPINION on how hard it is to vote in the US. So yes, I can reject it out of hand, just like a physicist might be able to tell you from a stupid title that an article is wrong.
I’m not taking a position on how hard it is to vote in America. As you earlier pointed out, and now seem to be forgetting, America is a big place and one perspective is very unlikely to cover all of it.
It’s perfectly possible, for example, for one person’s experience of voting to be quite different to another’s and for neither of them to be “wrong.” This is a matter of opinion and personal experience.
But when we’re talking about the facts of suffrage in the 1700s, this is no longer just a matter of opinion. Your experience of voting systems today is totally irrelevant. And as neither of us were there, we have to defer to the enormous historical record rather than spinning claims and statistics out of thin air.
And no, no physicist worth their salt, or simply no moderately intelligent person, would take a position on an article when they’ve only read the title.
So if I sent you a stupid article saying Trump Really Won, He was Robbed in the title, you would read it all to find out if it were true? Voter suppression is the same myth for the Left in the US as Voter Fraud is for the Right. In fact, in urban areas it can be harder NOT to vote than to vote if you are black. People from the local Democratic Party may knock on your door on election day and say, "We see you haven't voted yet, we are here with your ride to the polls." With electronic poll books, etc, that level of turnout effort is possible. That's been going on for at LEAST 25 years (the first time I saw it employed for one of my candidates) And in a great deal of states now, you have same day registration, so anyone can be taken to either the clerk's office or the polls. So, yes, I dismiss article out of hand that hint that problems for minority voting continue to the present day.
Got something that says that suffrage was ONLY white landowners? In local elections?
Remember, direct voting for anything else was party conventions and call kinds of complicate things. Women, for instance, voted in plenty of places before the Amendment, just as many had abortions before Roe Vs. Wade. Milestone universal dates are about as useful as acting like the Magna Carta had real significance to Welsh coal miners. Chains and slavery are NOT the same things. But read something real about Jamestown. White laborers could be killed for trying to escape, for one thing.
https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/voting-rights-throughout-history/
Yeah, anyone who says it's still hard to vote in the US if you're a citizen can be rejected out of hand. It's the kind of crap you debunk every day.
Ah, what a surprise you’re eager to “reject it out of hand” because of an opinion you dislike instead of addressing the facts. Maybe American history isn’t your thing😉
Anyway, I’m sure there’s something equally trivially unacceptable with all of these sources that all say the same thing…
https://www.loc.gov/classroom-materials/elections/right-to-vote/the-founders-and-the-vote/
https://www.history.com/news/voter-registration-elections-president-midterms
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-evolution-of-voting-rights-in-america
https://reagan.blogs.archives.gov/2022/03/29/road-to-the-voting-rights-act-voting-rights-from-1789-to-1869/
Such a surprise that you know more about American voting than you do, since managing campaigns in all kinds of areas from urban to rural is my JOB. But go ahead, enlighten on how it's just my OPINION on how hard it is to vote in the US. So yes, I can reject it out of hand, just like a physicist might be able to tell you from a stupid title that an article is wrong.
I’m not taking a position on how hard it is to vote in America. As you earlier pointed out, and now seem to be forgetting, America is a big place and one perspective is very unlikely to cover all of it.
It’s perfectly possible, for example, for one person’s experience of voting to be quite different to another’s and for neither of them to be “wrong.” This is a matter of opinion and personal experience.
But when we’re talking about the facts of suffrage in the 1700s, this is no longer just a matter of opinion. Your experience of voting systems today is totally irrelevant. And as neither of us were there, we have to defer to the enormous historical record rather than spinning claims and statistics out of thin air.
And no, no physicist worth their salt, or simply no moderately intelligent person, would take a position on an article when they’ve only read the title.
So if I sent you a stupid article saying Trump Really Won, He was Robbed in the title, you would read it all to find out if it were true? Voter suppression is the same myth for the Left in the US as Voter Fraud is for the Right. In fact, in urban areas it can be harder NOT to vote than to vote if you are black. People from the local Democratic Party may knock on your door on election day and say, "We see you haven't voted yet, we are here with your ride to the polls." With electronic poll books, etc, that level of turnout effort is possible. That's been going on for at LEAST 25 years (the first time I saw it employed for one of my candidates) And in a great deal of states now, you have same day registration, so anyone can be taken to either the clerk's office or the polls. So, yes, I dismiss article out of hand that hint that problems for minority voting continue to the present day.