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Chris Fox's avatar

A bit out of line admittedly but a topic suggestion I would like to see.

Why is the right trying to reignite the Culture Wars? They have clearly lost, young conservatives find all of this embarrassing. I know, I know, hate is what they have to sell and the gains made by sexual and racial minorities must have them pounding pillows. Perhaps in the SJWs and the "woke" culture they see an opportunity to stoke more outrage.

Id like to see what your talent at teasing apart the nuances could bring to bear on this.

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Steve QJ's avatar

"Why is the right trying to reignite the Culture Wars? "

Hmm, interesting! Do you think the culture wars ended? And do you think the current state of them is mainly because of the political right? I would primarily blame "woke" culture for the state of the culture wars today.

Yes, the right loves to stir racial angst or any perceived attack on "family values" but there is some truly insane stuff coming out of woke circles and gaining traction in society. All the right really has to do is point a camera at it and pretend that it represents "the Left." And the left has been absolutely awful at distancing itself from the crazies. Do you see it differently?

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Chris Fox's avatar

"All the right really has to do is point a camera at it and pretend that it represents "the Left."

I overlooked this. How critically important this is. But political suicide didn't start with the SJWs.

Back in the early 80s when I was starting to sour on gay political activism I was on a dialup forum and read one guy boasting that he had been on TV in the pride parade coverage and was gloating that he had been in his most shocking S&M gear and preening at the revulsion and disgust (my words) he inspired in the "tourists from Omaha" (his).

Just in case you were wondering when my revulsion at the attention freaks comes from.

There was one such activist who stood at the microphone and shrilled "yes, we do recruit children."

Thanks a lot.

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Chris Fox's avatar

I wouldn't argue about the role the SJWs play in maintaining outrage, I've written about them before and won't bore you or your readers with a repetitive diatribe. I will only add that while yes they are trying to stoke things up, there are substantial differences.

The "woke" culture is neither organized nor serious. They lack priorities and focus, more passionate about pronouns and bathrooms than brutality and murder. Their side has won victory after victory but is impatient and wants to push for something more, to impose a ridiculous and rigidly policed outlook on all of us.

BTW I don't see the same wrongness in "cancel culture" that you do; it seems perfectly reasonable to me to uninvite a university speaker who has published abhorrent views,

But "woke" culture is new, I don't see it as having roots in Civil Rights or marriage equality. I see it as made up of contemptible attention freaks who will turn to other issues should they appear to be fruitful sources of attention.

The Trump right on the other hand isn't new, it's a movement of intolerance that goes back to before the nation's founding, and it has already pretty much lost. Their racism is embarrassing, same-sex marriage is the law of the land; things are not going their way so they try to gin up the old hatreds in their diminishing and aging supporters. Click here to donate $20 and Save America.

Where the symmetry becomes disturbing is some—some— progressives' rigid orthodoxy; allegedly progressive forums ban people for using gendered pronouns and any right wing forum instantly bans someone who doesn't follow their exact program.

My point though is that the right has been in retreat on the social issues for a long time. Going ugly is not going to get them any new votes.

But yes I do wish the SJWs would put a cork in it.

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