Well, I’m all for spreading the not-picking-on around. Your concern about prison populations is obviously a good example of how “tran rights” can go off the rails. In that case I would argue the problem isn’t so much trans women, it’s rapists, but the fact that the two groups intersect is clearly problematic. No argument there. I think I…
Well, I’m all for spreading the not-picking-on around. Your concern about prison populations is obviously a good example of how “tran rights” can go off the rails. In that case I would argue the problem isn’t so much trans women, it’s rapists, but the fact that the two groups intersect is clearly problematic. No argument there. I think I may have entered that conversation at an inopportune point. If I had had some sense that the conversation wAs about protecting women from any(!) kind of predation, I’d have kept my mouth shut. I have no interest in dismissing any group’s experience/concerns either, certainly not women. (I have to think about whether, for example, i might be in favor of dismissing the KKK’s ‘concerns’ out of hand.)
"In that case I would argue the problem isn’t so much trans women, it’s rapists"
Oh, absolutely. And I'm not arguing that trans women are predators. The issue is the increasingly broad push for self ID, whereby male convicts can simply declare themselves women, with "no hormones, surgery or time spent living as the opposite sex required," (taken from this article: https://www.wsj.com/articles/male-inmates-in-womens-prisons-11622474215) and gain access to women's prisons.
This is so obviously dangerous that I can't believe anybody would support it. But the rush to affirm anybody who says they might be trans (and the conflation of *any* sensible guidelines for treating people who present with gender dysphoria, with "conversion therapy") has, in some cases, led to an almost pathological disdain for the rights, safety and comfort of women.
p.s. I must admit, I tend to dismiss the KKK's concerns out of hand. So far it's worked out pretty well. 😁
Well, I sure don’t support disdain for anyone’s rights, safety or even comfort. P.p.s. Yeah, I only mentioned KKK because I caught myself saying I don’t like to dismiss anyone’s POV and it didn’t take me long to see the BS in my claim.
Well, I’m all for spreading the not-picking-on around. Your concern about prison populations is obviously a good example of how “tran rights” can go off the rails. In that case I would argue the problem isn’t so much trans women, it’s rapists, but the fact that the two groups intersect is clearly problematic. No argument there. I think I may have entered that conversation at an inopportune point. If I had had some sense that the conversation wAs about protecting women from any(!) kind of predation, I’d have kept my mouth shut. I have no interest in dismissing any group’s experience/concerns either, certainly not women. (I have to think about whether, for example, i might be in favor of dismissing the KKK’s ‘concerns’ out of hand.)
"In that case I would argue the problem isn’t so much trans women, it’s rapists"
Oh, absolutely. And I'm not arguing that trans women are predators. The issue is the increasingly broad push for self ID, whereby male convicts can simply declare themselves women, with "no hormones, surgery or time spent living as the opposite sex required," (taken from this article: https://www.wsj.com/articles/male-inmates-in-womens-prisons-11622474215) and gain access to women's prisons.
This is so obviously dangerous that I can't believe anybody would support it. But the rush to affirm anybody who says they might be trans (and the conflation of *any* sensible guidelines for treating people who present with gender dysphoria, with "conversion therapy") has, in some cases, led to an almost pathological disdain for the rights, safety and comfort of women.
p.s. I must admit, I tend to dismiss the KKK's concerns out of hand. So far it's worked out pretty well. 😁
Well, I sure don’t support disdain for anyone’s rights, safety or even comfort. P.p.s. Yeah, I only mentioned KKK because I caught myself saying I don’t like to dismiss anyone’s POV and it didn’t take me long to see the BS in my claim.