The Afghanistan withdrawal meant/means something to Afghanistan war vets and thanks to the Déjà vu aspect, Vietnam war vets. Then of course people looking for political hay piled on. Americans have sound bite interest and memory. That ship may have sailed.
COVID vaccination mandates became a horrible thing by injecting politics into medi…
The Afghanistan withdrawal meant/means something to Afghanistan war vets and thanks to the Déjà vu aspect, Vietnam war vets. Then of course people looking for political hay piled on. Americans have sound bite interest and memory. That ship may have sailed.
COVID vaccination mandates became a horrible thing by injecting politics into medicine. The old teaspoon of sewage into a bottle of fine wine giving us a bottle of sewage. I'm an example of an over 70 triple vaxed person opposed to mandates. I'll leave my reasons out but say that you might be just the person to write something worthwhile on that in the middle of all the
emotional hell fire and damnation we see now.
The trans thing is walking into a mine field. You might be up to it. Nobody wants to discuss, they want to preach. I'll get some popcorn out for that if you do it.
😂 Get popping! I've already dipped my toe in and there are a couple of things in the pipeline that are going to be...interesting.
Yeah, the Afghanistan withdrawal, and especially the parallels to the Vietnam War, are absolutely fascinating. I also find it very interesting that it dropped out of the news cycle so incredibly quickly. I've especially been listening to what veterans have to say, and I feel like a lot of important issues haven't really been touched on. We'll see if anybody is still interested in thinking about it or if it's already out of sight and mind.
Yep, I'm double vaxxed and also oppose vaccine mandates. In fact, I find it quite easy to understand why some people don't want to get vaccinated. As you say, politics and medicine are about the worst bedfellows I can imagine, yet sadly, everything is politicised now. The fact that millions of people don't "trust the science (TM)" is a failing of the government and media far more than it is a failure of civic responsibility. I'll almost definitely cover this at some point.
A thought on the parallel between Vietnam and Afghanistan. In both cases since they fought alongside us they had to be as reliable as possible to us so we trained them to fight like us, and while we were there they got the required massive logistical support. In both cases, when we left, they lost that vital element in doing what they were trained to do. In both cases the populations level of fear justifiably rose, eroding that support.
I worked with a Vietnamese man who was too young for military service during the war. After the fall his father wanted to get the family out but his mother didn't want to go. They took his father for a week or two of "reeducation" that lasted three months and left him missing an arm and an eyeball. In Afghanistan it's been reported that they beheaded a female athlete who didn't get out. Quoting W, fear, terror.
America is too fickle to be relied upon. After we left Vietnam the Thai government had us vacate our airbases. They fought the Vietnamese inside their northeastern border for ten years after that. Not in our news. I learned of it on a family visit where I was taken to see their wall of war dead names and a museum near by. They gave the veterans some land to populate the area with Thai people. My father in-law was one of them. They could fight on their own terms and had a supporting population free of fear.
"In Afghanistan it's been reported that they beheaded a female athlete who didn't get out"
Yeah, there's some terrible stuff happening in Afghanistan right now. I hadn't heard about the athlete, but it's not a good place to be if you're a woman. That's for sure. Thanks for the added contrast with Vietnam, I didn't know about that either. Definitely food for thought.
The Afghanistan withdrawal meant/means something to Afghanistan war vets and thanks to the Déjà vu aspect, Vietnam war vets. Then of course people looking for political hay piled on. Americans have sound bite interest and memory. That ship may have sailed.
COVID vaccination mandates became a horrible thing by injecting politics into medicine. The old teaspoon of sewage into a bottle of fine wine giving us a bottle of sewage. I'm an example of an over 70 triple vaxed person opposed to mandates. I'll leave my reasons out but say that you might be just the person to write something worthwhile on that in the middle of all the
emotional hell fire and damnation we see now.
The trans thing is walking into a mine field. You might be up to it. Nobody wants to discuss, they want to preach. I'll get some popcorn out for that if you do it.
"I'll get some popcorn out for that if you do it"
😂 Get popping! I've already dipped my toe in and there are a couple of things in the pipeline that are going to be...interesting.
Yeah, the Afghanistan withdrawal, and especially the parallels to the Vietnam War, are absolutely fascinating. I also find it very interesting that it dropped out of the news cycle so incredibly quickly. I've especially been listening to what veterans have to say, and I feel like a lot of important issues haven't really been touched on. We'll see if anybody is still interested in thinking about it or if it's already out of sight and mind.
Yep, I'm double vaxxed and also oppose vaccine mandates. In fact, I find it quite easy to understand why some people don't want to get vaccinated. As you say, politics and medicine are about the worst bedfellows I can imagine, yet sadly, everything is politicised now. The fact that millions of people don't "trust the science (TM)" is a failing of the government and media far more than it is a failure of civic responsibility. I'll almost definitely cover this at some point.
A thought on the parallel between Vietnam and Afghanistan. In both cases since they fought alongside us they had to be as reliable as possible to us so we trained them to fight like us, and while we were there they got the required massive logistical support. In both cases, when we left, they lost that vital element in doing what they were trained to do. In both cases the populations level of fear justifiably rose, eroding that support.
I worked with a Vietnamese man who was too young for military service during the war. After the fall his father wanted to get the family out but his mother didn't want to go. They took his father for a week or two of "reeducation" that lasted three months and left him missing an arm and an eyeball. In Afghanistan it's been reported that they beheaded a female athlete who didn't get out. Quoting W, fear, terror.
America is too fickle to be relied upon. After we left Vietnam the Thai government had us vacate our airbases. They fought the Vietnamese inside their northeastern border for ten years after that. Not in our news. I learned of it on a family visit where I was taken to see their wall of war dead names and a museum near by. They gave the veterans some land to populate the area with Thai people. My father in-law was one of them. They could fight on their own terms and had a supporting population free of fear.
"In Afghanistan it's been reported that they beheaded a female athlete who didn't get out"
Yeah, there's some terrible stuff happening in Afghanistan right now. I hadn't heard about the athlete, but it's not a good place to be if you're a woman. That's for sure. Thanks for the added contrast with Vietnam, I didn't know about that either. Definitely food for thought.