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That is rich. We complain about a country where 21% of the population belongs to an ethnicity that has been at war with Jews since immemorial times and fail to see that NO Muslim country in the world would give safe haven to Jews. europarl.europa.eu/meet…
There are instances of housing discrimination in Israel, like in every other country…
That is rich. We complain about a country where 21% of the population belongs to an ethnicity that has been at war with Jews since immemorial times and fail to see that NO Muslim country in the world would give safe haven to Jews. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2004_2009/documents/fd/il20062006_07/il20062006_07en.pdf
There are instances of housing discrimination in Israel, like in every other country on Earth. USA is no better, as you very well know. And still, we have no complaints about Jews being actually killed if they set foot in Palestine, let's complain about Palestinians not having housing equity in Israel. Are you equally well informed about inequality in ALL other countries in the Middle East? https://carnegie-mec.org/2020/03/12/inequality-and-its-discontents-in-middle-east-pub-81266
I am curious to know why this insistence on Israel and all the ugly sides that come with living in that part of the world? Are you a scholar of the Arab-Israeli conflict? Are you enraged by the 10 million Sudanese killed or expelled by Islamic militias and who constitute, right now, the most serious humanitarian crisis in the world? Are you equally interested by the situation in Yemen? If you don't know much about them, you might ask yourself why. You might come to understand why there is enough room in the world for 57 Muslim ethno-religious countries, but not enough for a small Jewish one. You are, sadly, taking a page from the contemporary ideology at play in America and Western countries: insisting so much on "exposing" the worst in the best democracies around (there is no perfect country on Earth), that we fail to see that the alternative is even worse. Have a good day, I said I would stop and I didn't, my bad.
"USA is no better, as you very well know."
It feels like we're not going to get anywhere here. But yes, actually the situation in the USA is very different. If you were saying this 60 years ago, I'd have agreed with you, but not today. And, of course, if you *were* saying this 60 years ago, you'd find that I'd object just as strongly to the discriminatory practices in the US as I do to the ones in Israel. Using one example of terrible injustice to justify another is very strange.
And yes, to answer your question, I'm enraged by all genocides. But my country isn't funding any of those as far as I'm aware. And again, if the argument is really, "why is it okay for these other countries to commit genocide but not ours?" I think you've hit the bottom of the barrel.
And of course I'd object to Jews being killed if they entered the West Bank or Gaza. Although, of course, Jews DO enter the west Bank. And more often than not, in the case of settlers, it's the Jews doing the killing.
It's so silly to keep declaring that I don't care about Jewish lives despite my repeatedly telling you that I do. I've written several articles condemning the killing of Jews as well as criticising antisemitism. You're arguing with your imagination.
Anyway, I won't try to convince you of anything anymore. Instead, if you're interested, I'd really like you to flesh out why you're so devoted to defending or deflecting from Israel's misdeeds. You touched on it in an earlier reply when you said you strongly believe in Jews' right to have a country in the land of their ancestors, but if you're up for it, I'd really like you to flesh it out. I'm desperate to understand this in as well-rounded and good-faith a way as possible.
I won't reply or turn this into a new topic of debate, I'll give you the last word, I'd just like to hear what motivates your feelings on this topic.