I'm with you on the SHTF stuff although I don't worry about it overmuch - a solar storm knocking out power would last probably 10-15 years or more, upon which we're all fucked. What I've seen so far - in the Western world anyway - is major SHTF and the world didn't come to an end. Crime actually went *down everywhere* after 9/11, even in…
I'm with you on the SHTF stuff although I don't worry about it overmuch - a solar storm knocking out power would last probably 10-15 years or more, upon which we're all fucked. What I've seen so far - in the Western world anyway - is major SHTF and the world didn't come to an end. Crime actually went *down everywhere* after 9/11, even in New York where you would expect others would most take advantage of it. Mostly what they dealt with was downed Internet and phone/mobile service but everyone, even Millennials, could remember a world without Internet so everyone somehow survived. Here in Canada, when Rogers went down for a day and people couldn't get money, we didn't riot in the streets or slit each others' throats for food money. Granted, it was only down for a day, day and a half but we still made do some how some way. When we had an ice storm here Christmas 2013 and power went down for up to three weeks in some parts of the city (as a Tier 2 resident in a skyrise pocket I got it back in a day and a half, and stayed with my friend in a nearby town until then) and it was unhappy for many people, but still not mass chaos.
So if the SHTF events are short-lived I suspect, at least in Canada, we'll be okay, not sure about the Ignited States anymore. I know there were riots and mass vandalism in some places with the death of George Floyd and the rise of BLM, the latter of which AFAIK wasn't behind the violent shit, but social movements *do* draw violent hotheads.
I'm not sure *what* I'd do if we lost power here for a great length of time, apart from the 2013 ice storm the worst Toronto had seen was the 2003 blackout, and according to everyone who was here for it (I was still in CT, in a largely untouched pocket), everyone just kinda dealt...even in NY and the Midwest they dealt, ate their ice cream together and finally learned their neighbours' names.
OTOH, I do expect someone like you to have a more reasonable understanding of what a SHTF event is...the Alex Joneses of America...and there are a lot of them...think they're living in Nazi Germany when they're asked to put on a mask to not kill their families.
I'm with you on the SHTF stuff although I don't worry about it overmuch - a solar storm knocking out power would last probably 10-15 years or more, upon which we're all fucked. What I've seen so far - in the Western world anyway - is major SHTF and the world didn't come to an end. Crime actually went *down everywhere* after 9/11, even in New York where you would expect others would most take advantage of it. Mostly what they dealt with was downed Internet and phone/mobile service but everyone, even Millennials, could remember a world without Internet so everyone somehow survived. Here in Canada, when Rogers went down for a day and people couldn't get money, we didn't riot in the streets or slit each others' throats for food money. Granted, it was only down for a day, day and a half but we still made do some how some way. When we had an ice storm here Christmas 2013 and power went down for up to three weeks in some parts of the city (as a Tier 2 resident in a skyrise pocket I got it back in a day and a half, and stayed with my friend in a nearby town until then) and it was unhappy for many people, but still not mass chaos.
So if the SHTF events are short-lived I suspect, at least in Canada, we'll be okay, not sure about the Ignited States anymore. I know there were riots and mass vandalism in some places with the death of George Floyd and the rise of BLM, the latter of which AFAIK wasn't behind the violent shit, but social movements *do* draw violent hotheads.
I'm not sure *what* I'd do if we lost power here for a great length of time, apart from the 2013 ice storm the worst Toronto had seen was the 2003 blackout, and according to everyone who was here for it (I was still in CT, in a largely untouched pocket), everyone just kinda dealt...even in NY and the Midwest they dealt, ate their ice cream together and finally learned their neighbours' names.
OTOH, I do expect someone like you to have a more reasonable understanding of what a SHTF event is...the Alex Joneses of America...and there are a lot of them...think they're living in Nazi Germany when they're asked to put on a mask to not kill their families.