Ugh, this guy was doing nothing but parroting the NRA party line. You responded well to it. You have way more patience than I; I would have been like, "This shit has all been debunked and I'm not getting into it here because you are a True Believer."
The shit about the Good Guy With A Gun - an FBI report from about ten years ago showed th…
Ugh, this guy was doing nothing but parroting the NRA party line. You responded well to it. You have way more patience than I; I would have been like, "This shit has all been debunked and I'm not getting into it here because you are a True Believer."
The shit about the Good Guy With A Gun - an FBI report from about ten years ago showed that 3% of shooters - mass or otherwise - were stopped by civilians with guns. The vast majority of mass shooters were brought down by unarmed civilians.
The notion that anyone who's untrained and doesn't practice regularly - which that same FBI report brought out - is going to be crap in a fight. There are YouTube videos showing guys shot by a paintball 'mass shooter' before they even got their gun out of their shorts. As for women, I looked into this a few years ago when I started writing for Medium and talked to my friend's kid whom I've known all my life - he fought in both Afghanistan & Iraq, and between what he told me and some videos I watched on how to become effective in self-defense, I came to the conclusion that it just wouldn't work for most women, who have neither the time nor inclination to practice, and you have to practice every damn day and you may still not rid yourself of the 'freezing', deer in the headlights response.
Y'all focused so much on mass shooters you forgot the other big piece to America's gun homicide problem - urban gangs and black guys killing black guys. hey, black lives matter! <sardonic smile> No, I know you're aware of it.
I think where I'm going to go with these True Believers is to start really hammering them on *why* they think they need all these silly-ass weapons. I'm old enough to remember America when "guns for protecting, guns for hunting," were far more reasonable and the biggest controversies we had with gun people was whether they should be shooting animals at all. That wasn't my debate....that was between the animal lovers and the hunters. I quietly shut up because I'm from a French family where it's 'interdit' to not eat meat ;)
They're really struggling because they're losing this battle and they know it. They've gotten the America they wanted but it's turned out to be more violent than they envisioned, and there is nothing worse than being faced with having been hideously wrong.
Oy. Because of this I googled "latest mass shootings' because I have no idea what the most recent ones you referenced were and found....the latest one was this morning in Langley, BC....
Canada has been having more of these too....nowhere close to the US rate but....maybe....the late '80s early '90s rate? :(
Ugh, this guy was doing nothing but parroting the NRA party line. You responded well to it. You have way more patience than I; I would have been like, "This shit has all been debunked and I'm not getting into it here because you are a True Believer."
The shit about the Good Guy With A Gun - an FBI report from about ten years ago showed that 3% of shooters - mass or otherwise - were stopped by civilians with guns. The vast majority of mass shooters were brought down by unarmed civilians.
The notion that anyone who's untrained and doesn't practice regularly - which that same FBI report brought out - is going to be crap in a fight. There are YouTube videos showing guys shot by a paintball 'mass shooter' before they even got their gun out of their shorts. As for women, I looked into this a few years ago when I started writing for Medium and talked to my friend's kid whom I've known all my life - he fought in both Afghanistan & Iraq, and between what he told me and some videos I watched on how to become effective in self-defense, I came to the conclusion that it just wouldn't work for most women, who have neither the time nor inclination to practice, and you have to practice every damn day and you may still not rid yourself of the 'freezing', deer in the headlights response.
Y'all focused so much on mass shooters you forgot the other big piece to America's gun homicide problem - urban gangs and black guys killing black guys. hey, black lives matter! <sardonic smile> No, I know you're aware of it.
I think where I'm going to go with these True Believers is to start really hammering them on *why* they think they need all these silly-ass weapons. I'm old enough to remember America when "guns for protecting, guns for hunting," were far more reasonable and the biggest controversies we had with gun people was whether they should be shooting animals at all. That wasn't my debate....that was between the animal lovers and the hunters. I quietly shut up because I'm from a French family where it's 'interdit' to not eat meat ;)
They're really struggling because they're losing this battle and they know it. They've gotten the America they wanted but it's turned out to be more violent than they envisioned, and there is nothing worse than being faced with having been hideously wrong.
Oy. Because of this I googled "latest mass shootings' because I have no idea what the most recent ones you referenced were and found....the latest one was this morning in Langley, BC....
Canada has been having more of these too....nowhere close to the US rate but....maybe....the late '80s early '90s rate? :(