This Michael guy disqualifies himself in so many ways I lost count. I don't understand why you persist with someone who argues in serial falsehoods.
* self-defense. This is more of that hairy-chested Stand Your Ground BS. It's an article of faith that gun owners repel intruders and attacks 100,000 times a year, a preposterous figure th…
This Michael guy disqualifies himself in so many ways I lost count. I don't understand why you persist with someone who argues in serial falsehoods.
* self-defense. This is more of that hairy-chested Stand Your Ground BS. It's an article of faith that gun owners repel intruders and attacks 100,000 times a year, a preposterous figure that probably traces back to John Lott, who makes shit up.
* gun rights come from God. If your argument has its basis in the supernatural then you have no argument; until God can take the bench in a courtroom this is inadmissible. I know your determined civility forbids you from pointing this out but it's true.
* gun control is a non-starter. Nonsense. We banned assault rifles, mass shootings dropped. We unbanned them, mass shootings came roaring back.
* guns safeguard against tyranny. Horseshit. Only a fantasist sees tyranny in America coming from "the left" and anyone with a functioning brain sees it being actively developed on the right. The gun owners would in substantial number be enthusiastic supporters of their new right wing dictator, liberated to shoot people like you and me. And even those who opposed the tyrant would be going up against trained soldiers and would die by the thousand, probably safely killed by drones.
You can count me among those who would fully repeal the Second Amendment. Round up the guns and melt them down. Collectors could have their pieces irreversibly disabled but the age of personal firearms would draw to a close.
"The Bill of Rights must remain sacrosanct." Note the religious phrasing; your interlocutor suffers from delusions. I am SO RELIEVED that I will never be forced to let soldiers occupy my home!
The real problem with these arguments is the intense fanaticism of the gun culture. The fact that a man whose children were murdered by a deranged shooter will still adhere to his Second Amendment. We on what the uneducated call "the left" are accustomed to dealing in logic and perennially make the mistake of believing that everyone else does too. To the gun nuts any limitation is inadmissible and a step closer to slavery. You can't deal with fanatics.
This Michael guy disqualifies himself in so many ways I lost count. I don't understand why you persist with someone who argues in serial falsehoods.
* self-defense. This is more of that hairy-chested Stand Your Ground BS. It's an article of faith that gun owners repel intruders and attacks 100,000 times a year, a preposterous figure that probably traces back to John Lott, who makes shit up.
* gun rights come from God. If your argument has its basis in the supernatural then you have no argument; until God can take the bench in a courtroom this is inadmissible. I know your determined civility forbids you from pointing this out but it's true.
* gun control is a non-starter. Nonsense. We banned assault rifles, mass shootings dropped. We unbanned them, mass shootings came roaring back.
* guns safeguard against tyranny. Horseshit. Only a fantasist sees tyranny in America coming from "the left" and anyone with a functioning brain sees it being actively developed on the right. The gun owners would in substantial number be enthusiastic supporters of their new right wing dictator, liberated to shoot people like you and me. And even those who opposed the tyrant would be going up against trained soldiers and would die by the thousand, probably safely killed by drones.
You can count me among those who would fully repeal the Second Amendment. Round up the guns and melt them down. Collectors could have their pieces irreversibly disabled but the age of personal firearms would draw to a close.
"The Bill of Rights must remain sacrosanct." Note the religious phrasing; your interlocutor suffers from delusions. I am SO RELIEVED that I will never be forced to let soldiers occupy my home!
The real problem with these arguments is the intense fanaticism of the gun culture. The fact that a man whose children were murdered by a deranged shooter will still adhere to his Second Amendment. We on what the uneducated call "the left" are accustomed to dealing in logic and perennially make the mistake of believing that everyone else does too. To the gun nuts any limitation is inadmissible and a step closer to slavery. You can't deal with fanatics.