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"𝘔𝘰𝘴𝘵 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘯𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘣𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘪𝘯 𝘢 𝘧𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵. 𝘌𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘢 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯. 𝘈𝘯𝘥 𝘴𝘰, 𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺’𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘣𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘺 𝘯𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘣𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘴𝘪𝘵𝘶𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯, 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘥𝘭𝘺 𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘢𝘣𝘪𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘦𝘴."

Exactly!

I'm going to put a link that shows a police officer shooting a man to keep him from getting close. Don't watch it if you don't want to see that. I give a description. Only people who think they can fight a chimp think that unarmed is an indication of not dangerous.

The officer is female (yes, it matters). If a police officer loses a fight with an unarmed perp, s/he is now armed with the officer's gun. She perceived real danger in allowing him to come within hand-to-hand combat range. Her perception was probably correct. She shot the man. Other officers were asking if the guy was armed with a knife or gun. She thought she was in danger without seeing a weapon.

Did she have a Taser? Could she have beat him down with a baton? Could she have kept space until backup arrived? I don't know the answer to any of that. One of the people commenting in the video is a police officer. If you watched the video, would you have shot the man? Can you beat up a chimpanzee?

https://www.facebook.com/Americanvoicesthedailycaller/posts/203887902464509/

I present this as a case of a sworn police officer perceiving enough of a threat to shoot an unarmed man center mass twice. Perception of threat was an issue in the death of Jordan Neely. It matters.

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Steve QJ's avatar

"Only people who think they can fight a chimp think that unarmed is an indication of not dangerous."

100%. Very few people are even able to imagine how it would feel to be in a situation where you genuinely think your life is at risk. Or even just that the person you're facing seriously intends to hurt you. So they imagine they'd be as level headed as they feel when they're sitting behind a computer judging somebody else who was in fight or flight mode.

As with Penny, if you choose to take action you have to be willing to face the consequences. I don't believe for a second that he meant to kill Neely, but he did. And that has consequences. Same with the officer. If you choose to join the police you're putting yourself in harm's way. You have to be ready to deal with the consequences of your decisions in those situations.

But it's so naive to argue that nobody should have felt threatened unless Neely had started physically attacking people. Or that in the heat of the moment, mistakes aren't almost guaranteed to be made. That's why everything should be done to prevent getting to the heat of the moment.

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Peaceful Dave's avatar

"𝐓𝐡𝐚𝐭'𝐬 𝐰𝐡𝐲 𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐲𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐬𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐝 𝐛𝐞 𝐝𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐠𝐞𝐭𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐡𝐞𝐚𝐭 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐦𝐨𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭."

Words to live by.

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