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Peaceful Dave's avatar

I was thinking in terms of the use of the word in "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" where it had, to the best of my understanding, no sexual connotations, or even in the song "Send in the Clowns".

I had not considered generalized hate, but I guess that would explain the parades essentially giving heterosexuals the finger which is clearly not about seeking acceptance.

What is the ratio of politicized (in a caustic way) vs. non-political homosexuals (just living your life as you see fit)?

Perhaps it is too difficult for it to not be an identity in the face of open hostility. Now making me wonder if it applies to all of the identities in today's politicize everything world where demonization and insult are so common.

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Chris Fox's avatar

I pretty much exited the gay community in 1996 and ceased any activism at the same time. I had my post-breakup fling with gay bars in 1994-5 and after I abruptly got tired of that and left for the last time I eventually stopped caring. For gay activists there was no uglier word than assimilation and the cause that mattered most to me, same-sex marriage, was openly scorned as a "str8" institution while promiscuity was our birthright.

It ain't me, babe.

I have no idea what it's like now. I have the impression that the specialness has gone out of the enclave culture. But the "trans" BS has taken over; gay magazines and sites are now all about "trans." I have the impression that gay culture is a lot more mainstreamed now but I have been away from it for a long time and now geographically remote from it.

Personally, I don't "identify" with being gay, while a lot of activist gays identify with nothing else. If you read their profiles on, say, Medium they are just recitations of their "queer" credentials, with no mention of hobbies or interests. I can't imagine anyone other than Trump supporters I want less to do with.

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Peaceful Dave's avatar

That's one of the problems with identity politics. Instead of being in a subset of the whole bringing peace and harmony to all, it results in hate, discontent and turmoil. Another is that they are essentially NPCs marching in lockstep with tribal dictates.

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