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I think you're right. If they'd been reasonable, level-headed people I think most of us would just say transman or transwoman and it would be understood that they're not the same as a bio man or woman. Instead the language has gotten hostile on both sides, and I too say trans-identified man now because no, they're not women and never will.

Interesting, as it is always, that trans-identified women stay out of the debate. I wonder why.

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