There are debates we could be having over this, but we're not. Because we're stuck between two communities; one in siege mode, where any compromise is seen as betrayal, and the other motivated by holy war, where any compromise is seen as another step towards victory. It's much the the abortion debate, that way. And in the case of the tra…
There are debates we could be having over this, but we're not. Because we're stuck between two communities; one in siege mode, where any compromise is seen as betrayal, and the other motivated by holy war, where any compromise is seen as another step towards victory. It's much the the abortion debate, that way. And in the case of the trans debate, we literally don't now the long-term effects. I tend to favor the side that's not made of Bible-thumping morons, but I wish they were less doctrinaire.
“I tend to favor the side that's not made of Bible-thumping morons, but I wish they were less doctrinaire.”
I don’t think Roisin Murphy is a Bible-thumping moron. I think in almost all polarised debates like this one, each side is caricatured by the other. So everyone who has thought carefully about the use of puberty blockers is painted with the same stupid brush.
Health authorities in England and Norway and Finland are not Bible thumping morons. The FDA, who still haven’t approved puberty blockers for use on gender dysphoric children, are not Bible-thumping morons. Buck Angel and Scott Newgent, both trans men who are very outspoken against puberty blockers, are not Bible-thumping morons.
I also think it’s terribly dangerous to make the assumption that concerns about children are always disingenuous.
I agree that there are other pressing issues facing children. But I think the normalisation of the idea that puberty is dangerous or should be treated as a medical condition is a significant problem. This isn’t a problem that will just get smaller over time if it’s ignored.
And in terms of "think of the children" (assuming, for once, that this isn't a reactionary dogwhistle), I'd think that gender issues are barely on the list of things threatening today's kids. You want to think of the children, make sure they'll have a world worth living in to grow up in.
There are debates we could be having over this, but we're not. Because we're stuck between two communities; one in siege mode, where any compromise is seen as betrayal, and the other motivated by holy war, where any compromise is seen as another step towards victory. It's much the the abortion debate, that way. And in the case of the trans debate, we literally don't now the long-term effects. I tend to favor the side that's not made of Bible-thumping morons, but I wish they were less doctrinaire.
“I tend to favor the side that's not made of Bible-thumping morons, but I wish they were less doctrinaire.”
I don’t think Roisin Murphy is a Bible-thumping moron. I think in almost all polarised debates like this one, each side is caricatured by the other. So everyone who has thought carefully about the use of puberty blockers is painted with the same stupid brush.
Health authorities in England and Norway and Finland are not Bible thumping morons. The FDA, who still haven’t approved puberty blockers for use on gender dysphoric children, are not Bible-thumping morons. Buck Angel and Scott Newgent, both trans men who are very outspoken against puberty blockers, are not Bible-thumping morons.
I also think it’s terribly dangerous to make the assumption that concerns about children are always disingenuous.
I agree that there are other pressing issues facing children. But I think the normalisation of the idea that puberty is dangerous or should be treated as a medical condition is a significant problem. This isn’t a problem that will just get smaller over time if it’s ignored.
And in terms of "think of the children" (assuming, for once, that this isn't a reactionary dogwhistle), I'd think that gender issues are barely on the list of things threatening today's kids. You want to think of the children, make sure they'll have a world worth living in to grow up in.