Ironically, you may have a point. Just this morning I read an AP article about small towners who fear for democracy. It was about people who are regarded as 'far right' and supported Trump, but who are a bit more complicated - one guy supported the civil rights protests after George Floyd and others say they don't want violence. It was a…
Ironically, you may have a point. Just this morning I read an AP article about small towners who fear for democracy. It was about people who are regarded as 'far right' and supported Trump, but who are a bit more complicated - one guy supported the civil rights protests after George Floyd and others say they don't want violence. It was an interesting, more nuanced look into them, although it was disturbing that many of them listened to QAnon. (Then again, the far left listens to Pink News).
For sure, people assume I'm a wokie once they figure out I'm on the left (or how far down) or a right-winger if I'm pushing back on the left, as I'm wont to do. I'm not sure it's unrealistic though, to suspect that any Republican with morals has already left the party, however conservative they may be. Maybe that's incorrect, but if they're not that crazy, maybe they might want to think they're known by the company they keep.
I once left a discussion forum a year later than I should have for exactly that reason. It was getting embarrassing to be seen online with people whose cause I supported (being childfree), but who also included a lot of extremist child-haters and parent-bashers.
People are complicated which is why I so often protest tribal politics. I don't subscribe to Fox News and have only seen a limited amount of his stuff. Today I read a piece on Medium going on and on about Tucker Carlson and fear mongering. TC couldn't hold a candle to this dude's fear mongering, hyperbole and outright BS. Medium is the left-wing Tucker Carlson show. I don't hate them for it any more than I hate TC; they are expressing their biased perceptions to their audience. While their audience is not as large as his, I suspect that the average Medium reader spends more time on Medium than TC's viewers spend watching him.
From a Niel Young song, "Ooh, ooh, the damage done"
The extremists are the squeaky wheel that gets attention as they act like they are the mouth of their tribe. Odin help us if they are. Your last paragraph is a perfect example of how embarrassing it can be when people you could agree with jump the shark. All of us here have expressed it.
I don't know if it makes me unique in any way, but I have dear friends and family both left and right whose friendship I cherish and I am comfortable in their company. Some, too close to the edges will hear my opinion of that and so far, we have remained friends. Probably because we go back far before even knowing each other's political views. One internet (Medium) friend who I liked and cared about was a sad exception. Looking back, I should have expected it.
Sorry, I tend to ramble when writing since I don't need to stop and listen. As for conservatives leaving the RP, a number of friends who, like me, don't lock-step with a party started calling themselves Libertarians (a mix of left and right views who made a crossroads deal with the devil and too often vote R) for various reasons. They in no way sit at the feet of Ayn Rand, most libertarians abandoned Objectivism too.
I earned my place in the cult-like tribe known as Marines. If you were vetted to some of our forums, you would find that we are as politically divided as the rest of America. Our terms of endearment for each other sound like hate speech to outsiders. LOL
I wish I could converse with a number of people here at a table with a pitcher and bowl of chips where communication is less difficult. I suspect that your idea of what a conservative is is a bit different from mine.
Ironically, you may have a point. Just this morning I read an AP article about small towners who fear for democracy. It was about people who are regarded as 'far right' and supported Trump, but who are a bit more complicated - one guy supported the civil rights protests after George Floyd and others say they don't want violence. It was an interesting, more nuanced look into them, although it was disturbing that many of them listened to QAnon. (Then again, the far left listens to Pink News).
For sure, people assume I'm a wokie once they figure out I'm on the left (or how far down) or a right-winger if I'm pushing back on the left, as I'm wont to do. I'm not sure it's unrealistic though, to suspect that any Republican with morals has already left the party, however conservative they may be. Maybe that's incorrect, but if they're not that crazy, maybe they might want to think they're known by the company they keep.
I once left a discussion forum a year later than I should have for exactly that reason. It was getting embarrassing to be seen online with people whose cause I supported (being childfree), but who also included a lot of extremist child-haters and parent-bashers.
People are complicated which is why I so often protest tribal politics. I don't subscribe to Fox News and have only seen a limited amount of his stuff. Today I read a piece on Medium going on and on about Tucker Carlson and fear mongering. TC couldn't hold a candle to this dude's fear mongering, hyperbole and outright BS. Medium is the left-wing Tucker Carlson show. I don't hate them for it any more than I hate TC; they are expressing their biased perceptions to their audience. While their audience is not as large as his, I suspect that the average Medium reader spends more time on Medium than TC's viewers spend watching him.
From a Niel Young song, "Ooh, ooh, the damage done"
The extremists are the squeaky wheel that gets attention as they act like they are the mouth of their tribe. Odin help us if they are. Your last paragraph is a perfect example of how embarrassing it can be when people you could agree with jump the shark. All of us here have expressed it.
I don't know if it makes me unique in any way, but I have dear friends and family both left and right whose friendship I cherish and I am comfortable in their company. Some, too close to the edges will hear my opinion of that and so far, we have remained friends. Probably because we go back far before even knowing each other's political views. One internet (Medium) friend who I liked and cared about was a sad exception. Looking back, I should have expected it.
Sorry, I tend to ramble when writing since I don't need to stop and listen. As for conservatives leaving the RP, a number of friends who, like me, don't lock-step with a party started calling themselves Libertarians (a mix of left and right views who made a crossroads deal with the devil and too often vote R) for various reasons. They in no way sit at the feet of Ayn Rand, most libertarians abandoned Objectivism too.
I earned my place in the cult-like tribe known as Marines. If you were vetted to some of our forums, you would find that we are as politically divided as the rest of America. Our terms of endearment for each other sound like hate speech to outsiders. LOL
I wish I could converse with a number of people here at a table with a pitcher and bowl of chips where communication is less difficult. I suspect that your idea of what a conservative is is a bit different from mine.